Probably (there are caveat cases where that might not be true, but usually you are correct). Tim Mangan -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:26 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: AW: Re: Typing Delay - Need some expertadvice......please!!!! My Pages Output/Sec spikes when my % Disk Time spikes, = I need more RAM, right? -----Original Message----- From: Tim Mangan [mailto:tmangan@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 9:19 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: AW: Re: Typing Delay - Need some expertadvice......please!!!! RAM will help (up to 4GB) iff the problem is that you don't have enough and the system is paging. Use the performance monitor in the administrator tools at monitor paging to see if it correlates. (Also you can look at the "available memory" in the task manager to see if it gets low). By the way, given both CPU and Disk activity, you likely have more than one performance problem. Tim Mangan -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Luchette, Jon Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 8:44 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: AW: Re: Typing Delay - Need some expertadvice......please!!!! We have 6 MF XP servers FR3 win2k sp4. All are DL360's with 1.4 GHz procs and 2GB RAM (3 G1's and 3 G2's) We are having a very similar problem where users will notice delays or screen hangs for 10-20 seconds in their ICA sessions while in any number of applications. I see using perfmon that my CPU utilization will spike at the same time as my % Disk Time will spike. Would you recommend trying to go this route to fix it (adding write cache to my Raid Controllers) or do you think that I could simply add more RAM to fix this problem (we have already ordered the RAM so...) Thanks, /jL -----Original Message----- From: Ed Zubek [mailto:ezubek@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:15 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Sascha.Pape@xxxxx Subject: [THIN] AW: Re: Typing Delay - Need some expertadvice......please!!!! We had the same problem. The cache module fixed it. >>> Sascha.Pape@xxxxx 10/31/04 08:23AM >>> had the same problem on our dl360's. did you buy them with bbwc module? found out that the raid controller comes without write cache. check physical disk %disk time during normal operation and user logon / logoff. the missing cache can cause the server to stop responding for a few secs. see CTX103277 for details. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of adamadz Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 9:55 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Typing Delay - Need some expert advice......please!!!! Hi everyone, We're experiencing intermittent (but frequent) typing delays on both of our Citrix environments (one production one soon-to-be-production) but I feel I've been down almost all of the normal paths. Here are the stats: Production environment: 5 servers, DL360 G2s, MF XP 1.0, Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced SP3 + KB324446, KB824146, KB81669 Hotfixes, 2GB RAM, Office 2000 Test environment: 6 servers, DL380 G4s, MF XP 3.0, Microsoft Windows 2000 Advanced SP4 + All hotfixes (as of last week) + all Citrix hotfixes, Office 2003 In both environments, we get occasional typing delays from users for a few seconds when they're using email (Outlook is editor, not Word). CPU/Memory are both fine during the reported sluggishness. Network latency is well below the threshold as this is happening even on the local LAN segement. I've run bandwith and ping testing and this comes back with 890 MB/sec and less than 1 ms delay time. Port speed and duplex has also been locked down on the server NICs and switchports.... But we're still having a noticible issue. With the non-production boxes, only a handful of users are on them, so maybe 1 person per server and there's still a problem... I'm at my wit's end and I've already opened a ticket with Citrix, but it's a painful process since it's only an intermittent issue. Speedscreen is not turned on. As I mentioned, since users on the same subnet with a Gigabit connection are also having the problem, I don't see how it can be bandwith/latency related. I'd rather not mask the problem before actually finding out the root of it. I've tried disabling all of the Citrix virtual channels and still no luck.. Has anyone else had this happen? Any ideas on what I might be missing? Does this sound Citrix related or network related? Any gut feelings? 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