Is that a rufous collar I see :-)....Seriously we had a discussion on this list ot maybe the other on these rufous guys a 3-4 of years back. I posted as perhaps did others that, I had seen a few rufous birds in SC Okla. but not in Cen-Tex.....It should still be in the archives, but I don't know if this "new" Texbirds still has the old archives....Last time I tried to use it , there were none of the old archives. -- Brush Freeman 361-655-7641 http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/ Finca de los Alacranes., Utley,Texas