Hi all, Thanks Brush! This is great to see, and an investigation long overdue frankly. Hopefully more will pry further. If one went back in my bird news columns at my utopianature webpage, oh about 10 years ago, and multiple occasions since, I have written about texana Scrub-Jays: texana is more different from californicus than insularis (Island S-Jay) is. That may not be true on a genetic level, but as an observer of the birds and their behavior, that was my takeaway. These texana are such a different animal from the Pacific birds. I am less familiar with the various interior woodhousei clade birds but these seem quite a different beast from them to me as well. I've had freinds visit and like me having californicus as your default Scrub-Jay, they can hardly believe these dinky things are them too. I have a bunch of audio of these texana, and some sounds I never heard out of any other Scrub-Jay anywhere else. The slowly crackling potato chip bag is amazing. Do other Scrub-Jays do that one? One interesting aspect of the texana we have had nest around our yard was that they let all the young of the year, from all three broods, stay in the territory throughout the nesting season (my californicus never allowed this). Until one day in early fall when they kick all young from all broods out together the same very, very loud day, or two. Multiple breeding seasons and falls I watched this, and even have recorded the eviction dates. Split texana Scrub-Jay! There aren't enough things called Texas this or that anyway. ;) Mitch Heindel Utopia, Texas www.utopianature.com On 2014-07-15 13:15, Brush Freeman wrote: > > Check the color graph well into the article. > Hey, Texas, you've got some distinctive scrub-jays in the Hill Country! > > Our research shows for the first time that Aphelocoma californica > texana is > genetically distinct. The plot below is based on nuclear genetic > markers. > Individual birds are the thin vertical lines, and the colors are their > membership in different genetic groups. The texana birds comprise the > solid > blue part of the plot, showing they are distinct from scrub-jays in > west > Texas and northeastern Mexico. > > http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/14/135 Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner