Looks like I have a pile of compost in the freezer...I would also semi, apologize to Jack for my off the cuff anger...I still resent his contacting others that contacted my some of permit holders behind my back.......We had a "Good Samaritan" system that was working well for years with the TCWC getting loads of super good specimens .Jack is not the permit police for Texas, but I do acknowledge he has done a lot for it via TOS the Bulletin etc......Ok that is done....What to do with the birds I have that you out there w/o permits provided me....?....Do I see robust tomato plants come spring? On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Jack Eitniear <jackeitniear@xxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Jack, please post this to Texbirds. Thanks; Gary > > > > Texbirds, > > > > Given the recent postings that have involved salvaging birds for the TCWC, > I felt it necessary to clarify my position. > > > > I have never been happy with the USFWS position regarding dead birds and > who can salvage them. I think anybody should be able to do this, assuming > they pass the bird(s) on to a scientific collection. > > > > But, as Jack posted (and I thank him for doing this), picking up birds > remains illegal for anybody not specifically listed on a permit. As such, > I can’t condone the Texbirds posting of a TCWC permit number (Dr. Arnold’s > are ultimately through TCWC and Texas A&M) and associated statements > suggesting, 1) that having these permit numbers on you somehow conveys > legal status, and 2) that you shouldn’t “worry about this stuff”. While > pursuing non-permitted folks is likely very low on TPWD/USWFS list of > things to do, blatantly encouraging such activity is inappropriate and as > Curator of Birds, I can’t have TCWC being seen as a party to it. > > > > That said, if anybody would like to be added to Dr. Arnold’s salvage > permit, he is willing to discuss that with you. We appreciate all your > efforts in helping us build the collections. > > > > Best regards > > > > Gary Voelker > > > > _____________________________________________________ > > Gary Voelker > Associate Professor and Curator of Birds > Wildlife and Fisheries Sciences > 306 Old Heep > Texas A&M University > College Station, TX 77843 > > > > > > -- Brush Freeman Independent and affiliated Field Biologist 361-655-7641 http://texasnaturenotes.blogspot.com/ Finca Alacranes., Utley,Texas The greatest musician of all time is mother nature.