tsk tsk... [weez:~] telnet www.valinux.com 80 Trying 198.186.202.132... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out Now, if only you ran Windows 2000 ... ;) John -- # John Madden weez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ICQ: 2EB9EA # FreeLists, Free mailing lists for all: //www.freelists.org # UNIX Systems Engineer, Ivy Tech State College # Sys-Admin / Webmaster, Avenir Web: http://avenir.dhs.org # Linux, Apache, Perl and C: All the best things in life are free!