Re: "Dude, you need a woman" - Continued !

  • From: Neil Doane <caine@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: technocracy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:31:04 -0600

I love their example conversation, which should have gone more like:

"You don't have to do that."
"Piss off, that's how I like to do it."
"It's ineffecient and stupid."
"No it isn't jackwad!  LOOK!"
"Still...that's now how we learned it and it's bad form."
"I don't give a fuck.  I have the keyboard now."
"I'll just rewrite it when you go get a coffee."
"You'd _better_ not goddam touch it! I need that function for this."*points*
"I'll rewrite that too." 
"I'll kick your ass!  That's MY CODE!"
"Fuck off pussy!  I'll kill you!"
*Shove!* *Bap!* *Pow!* *Biff!* *scuffle!*

Turning people who have been socialized as creative antisocial loners their 
entire lives into social, cooperative group participants requires more than
a laptop and some post-it notes.


* M.K. Chatterji (chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx), on [05-01-02 09:13], wrote:
> There are two different schools of thought on so-called "Extreme
> Programming" (or XP): one thinks it's the solution, the other thinks it's
> part of the problem. Based on pair programming -- where software developers
> work together on one computer -- Extreme Programming is intended to
> increase productivity, by transforming programmers from loners into social
> beings. Robert Mee, who runs a Silicon Valley XP coaching company, argues:
> "There is this machismo culture in the Valley where, if you're not in your
> cubicle drinking jolt cola and eating pizza at 2 in the morning, you're not
> a high-tech stud. This is a cultural change. This forces them to be social
> creatures, with saner lives." But critics say that XP leads not to
> productivity but to inefficiency. Programmer Alon Salon Edward Hiett, who
> uses XP, admits that pair programming can be unnerving: "Programming is a
> very creative process and requires a lot of concentration. It's natural to
> want to go away and do it by yourself. With pairing, you have to give up
> control." And what do female programmers think? Software developer Laura
> Waite says: "XP resolves that issue that women don't like: working by
> yourself in a cubicle with no interaction. I know lots of women who love XP
> because of that." (San Jose Mercury News 29 Apr 2002)

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