i checked sm caps and resistors on drum and capstan board..all check good...rf modulator and tuner are good. thanks everyone for their suggestions so far.. joe this vcr came in with video looking like bad heads..scrambled picture like no sync.. i checked tape guides/back tension etc..changed heads no change.. audio from tape is ok...E-E tuning ok..capstan belt ok.. no change at different speeds... any help would be greatly appreciated....thanks joe william j.weaver KG8CJ weavers electronics 268 w.water st. oak harbor,ohio 43449 1-419-898-4129 phone 1-419-898-5054 fax weavel@xxxxxxxx www.cros.net/weavel Help make your TechAssist online repair tips database better! Submit your fixes here: http://www.circuitwork.com/techassist/tip/#tips To unsubscribe write to: techassist-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line.