Thanks for all the replys. I have no idea how this set could have all these problems but here's the final tally. No osc= bad 8meghz crystal That brought up the osc/ still dead No data to/from the eeprom / bad eeprom / still dead but had a burst of data on plug in. discovered that the customer never uses the switches on the tv/ only remote. power switch and vol and menu were bad. That brought the set back to life. What a pain. Again thanks for all the help Roy Roy E. Adams C.E.T. Bonded TV Service 5158 W Forest Home Ave Milwaukee, WI 53219 "I already told you more then I know" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This Email List is Public. Remove: http://www.tech-assist.org/remove.htm Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Appliance Repair List: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/chatjoin.htm#app Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/