I remember having a couple of toshes with the blue yoke going bad also---same symptom. Pull the yoke and inspect it closely. One of the two had a burnt spot---had to look at it about 3 times to see it. Actually, I didnt see it then I finally just ordered the yoke, THEN I saw it. I rang it and rang it and it never showed bad. TV Doctor Avalon,Wi ----- Original Message ----- From: <damon101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:19 AM Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Toshiba 57H84 > Just pull the blue crt board off and then you can run it for hours if you > want, but really without the HV the crt won't light anyways...... > > Damon Brunger > Telrad Electronics > Fort Wayne IN > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "markbrock" <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 6:30 AM > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Toshiba 57H84 > > > > I un-hooked the blue hv lead at the splitter, and red/green pix came up > with > > sound, ( only let it run for second ) so must be the blue gun I didn't > mess > > with the yoke plug, could it still be just the yoke ? can I unplug a > yoke > > and leave the hv lead hooked up to find out for sure ? I'm pretty sure > that > > would put a single bright dot in the tube and most likely burn the > > phosphorous even with the screen down ? > > sure appreciate any advise > > > > Brock Electronics > > R.R.4 box 237 > > 5208 cr.3385 > > Independence Ks. 67301 > > 620-331-0235 > > fax 331-7191 > > > > markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Zenith*Philips*Peavey*Fender*Crate > > we work on all brands,makes,models > > of anything that plugs in the wall > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin" <kevintv@xxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 7:41 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Toshiba 57H84 > > > > > > > I would remove the HV lead from each tube separately and turn the set on > > > for a split second to see if it still goes into shutdown. If all tests > > > good there, I would measure the yoke windings to see if they all measure > > > about the same. I had one Toshiba 2 years ago that had the vertical > > > windings shorted, and the good ones measured 7 ohms and the bad one > > > measured 5 ohms. I found that one by disconnecting the yoke windings > > > one at a time. I was told after that that may not be the best way to > > > test it. But it worked this time for me. Measuring the yokes is the > > > safest way. The bad yoke also rang low as well on my Sencore cap and > > > flyback tester. > > > > > > Kevin Wilks > > > Kevin's TV & Video Repair > > > Penticton BC Canada > > > kevintv@xxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of markbrock > > > Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:36 AM > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Toshiba 57H84 > > > > > > John: Is this as easy as just un-hooking from the splitter ? what about > > > the > > > beam current? will it burn the phosphorous ? seems like I messed up an > > > RCA > > > one time doing that. I see no cracks, or fluid in the tubes. > > > brock > > > > > > Brock Electronics > > > R.R.4 box 237 > > > 5208 cr.3385 > > > Independence Ks. 67301 > > > 620-331-0235 > > > fax 331-7191 > > > > > > markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > Zenith*Philips*Peavey*Fender*Crate > > > we work on all brands,makes,models > > > of anything that plugs in the wall > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "John @ Myers TV" <myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:48 PM > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Toshiba 57H84 > > > > > > > > > > Mark, > > > > > > > > I just did one where I had to isolate the tubes. I ran the set for a > > > moment > > > > with the blue CRT unhooked. Everything ran OK. > > > > In my case, the face of the blue CRT had cracked. This loaded down the > > > > splitter > > > > > > > > John Myers > > > > Myers TV Service Company > > > > 376 E. State St. > > > > Alliance, OH 44601 > > > > > > > > phone: (voice & Fax) 330-821-6545 > > > > myers_tv_b@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > www.myerstv.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "markbrock" <markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 5:06 PM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Toshiba 57H84 > > > > > > > > > > > > > this one is eating my lunch, customer said it had squiggly lines > > > then > > > > just > > > > > quit, I suspected the convergence IC's and knew they would cause > > > shut > > > > down > > > > > on Toshiba's, so ordered, replaced, no help, I then un-hooked the > > > > > hi-voltage lead from the fly to the splitter and it stays on with > > > sound > > > > but > > > > > of course no pix, I ordered and replaced the splitter, same thing, > > > so > > > > the > > > > > splitter probably is not the problem, so now where do I go to ?? > > > > original > > > > > problem was jumpy pix while customer was watching then shut down. > > > flybac > > > > ? > > > > > is it on the deflection board or how do I isolate a tube, can I > > > unplug > > > > them > > > > > ? yoke ? hheeellllpppp please > > > > > brock > > > > > > > > > > Brock Electronics > > > > > R.R.4 box 237 > > > > > 5208 cr.3385 > > > > > Independence Ks. 67301 > > > > > 620-331-0235 > > > > > fax 331-7191 > > > > > > > > > > markbrock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Zenith*Philips*Peavey*Fender*Crate > > > > > we work on all brands,makes,models > > > > > of anything that plugs in the wall > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > > > > --- > > > > > Lost Password: > > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > > Email Archives: > > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -- > > > --- > > > > Lost Password: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > Email Archives: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > ----- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > -- > > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.9 - Release Date: 1/6/2005 > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > Lost Password: > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > Email Archives: > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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