Hard to describe. Usually when turned on from cold start the picture has a number of quarter sized black "blobs" with a tail to the right over the picture, throughout the screen. (like tadpoles). As it warms up they disappear, but is taking longer to leave. Otherwise pic looks OK. I thought "IK" troubles but not sure if it's CRT related. Any histories on this symptom? Phil Bader -- Jan Phyl TV Inc 3420 Recker Hwy. Winter Haven, Fl. 33880 fax: 863-299-8821 (professional. technician calls only) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jokes, complaints, off topics, general chat. Everything other than repair help problems can be found at this new list. No archives and posts will not be found on Google or any other engine!To remove or join, email chat-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx with remove or join as the subject. Send to the list at chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx once subscribed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/