[TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6 Chassis Wide/Zoom Convergence
- From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:26:46 -0500
Thanks but not needed, I triple my button pushing, before during and
after.....don't trust that word "WRITE" no matter what color it turns. Also,
after CRT installation, I go straight to the centering rings, adjust that
1st, and if the convergence is reasonably close, I'll hit the Flash Focus to
verify the skew/centering is correct.....THEN I'll converge it. Then Flash
Focus it afterwards. Don't care to see E80 G pop up after tweaking the
convergence, then have to re-align it again.
Damon Brunger
Telrad Electronic Services
Ft Wayne, IN 46815
----- Original Message -----
From: "D Panday" <dpanday@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 1:33 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6 Chassis Wide/Zoom Convergence
>
> Damon,
>
> Sony have a correction on Convergence Alignmnet procedures.
> Flash focus have to be done after you do the full mode adjustmnet,
> then copy to other modes, after which you flash focus again.
> I can email a copy to you.
> Panday
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6 Chassis Wide/Zoom
Convergence
> >Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 07:15:46 -0500
> >
> >
> >Just got done doing this repair, found out that after doing the Full Mode
> >convergence and using the Joystick to Copy, that the Wide does need to be
> >converged. Switch the format mode to Wide Zoom, access the PJE alignment
> >again, converge and Voila!
> >
> >What I couldn't figure out was WHY this didn't work when I was out there
> >before.....I had to be doing something wrong in the procedure to get a
> >converged grid AFTER trying to access Wide mode. This is rather obvious
to
> >me now.
> >
> >Damon Brunger
> >Telrad Electronic Services
> >Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Damon" <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 9:02 PM
> >Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6 Chassis Wide/Zoom
Convergence
> >
> >
> > >
> > > And if I don't have a 1080i source??? Do I actually need one to
converge
> >in
> > > 1080i??
> > >
> > > Damon Brunger
> > > Telrad Electronic Services
> > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bob Derrick" <bderrick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:20 PM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6 Chassis Wide/Zoom
> >Convergence
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Don't forget to do the HD using a 1080i input, you can change pic
> >modes,
> > > > inputs, or use customer menu while in the service mode but write
first
> >of
> > > it
> > > > will be lost.
> > > > Bob Derrick c/o Leader TV, Rochester NY
> > > > In the beginning GOD
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Damon
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 9:06 PM
> > > > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6 Chassis Wide/Zoom
> > > > Convergence
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, yeah....why didn't I think of that....the Joystick!!!
> > > >
> > > > Alright, so after doing full mode, I go to the customer menu, and
> >RESET
> > > the
> > > > format of the screen to WIDE ZOOM, then just Re access the
convergence
> > > > setup, and realign it, Mute /Enter. Flash Focus .....and that's
IT???
> > > >
> > > > And here I thought there was some Parameter you had to change....ie
> >WZsize
> > > > or WZlin. Heh, sometimes I think Sony trains us a little too early,
> >which
> > > I
> > > > guess is better than too late...
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Damon Brunger
> > > > Telrad Electronic Services
> > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Frank Luu" <fkluu@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 8:08 AM
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6 Chassis Wide/Zoom
> > > Convergence
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Damon:
> > > > > Use the joystick or ball to change registers value,
> > > > > not 3 or 6.(i though this will help your headache..)
> > > > > This is what I do:
> > > > > replace green and blue CRTs at the same time first,
> > > > > converge them to match with Red.( red is dominated
> > > > > color,it's easy to work with)then replace red crts.
> > > > > As far as adjust the convergence,I always set to Full
> > > > > mode first, adjust,flash Focus and save. Then Copy to
> > > > > normal and Zoom. Wide zoom need adjust separately,same
> > > > > way.
> > > > > Fine tuning and flash focus before give the remote
> > > > > back to customer.
> > > > > Good luck
> > > > > Frank Luu
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Damon <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Copy to 1.....you know I tried that on both TVs, use
> > > > > > 1 and 4 to move to
> > > > > > copy. When I pushed 3 or 6 to set register to
> > > > > > 1.......well the Grid popped
> > > > > > up. Of course, I also did the Mute, Enter with copy.
> > > > > > Most of my information
> > > > > > on this came from reading the SBs, although I had
> > > > > > actual "on the Projo
> > > > > > training" in Indy....about 3 - 4 years ago....gives
> > > > > > you plenty of time to
> > > > > > forget the "little things".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now All Copy will let you set the register to 1,
> > > > > > using 3 and 6.....but the
> > > > > > SBs warn against using ALCP because it will transfer
> > > > > > info to ALL MODES, thus
> > > > > > misaligning your Zoom./Wide. I have avoided that
> > > > > > like the plague, until
> > > > > > yesterday (Heck, why not, the modes misaligned
> > > > > > anyways.....?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So.....do you just set the customer's
> > > > > > <wide/zoom/normal/full> menu settings
> > > > > > to Wide??? Or do you use Zoom only....then access
> > > > > > the PJE setup again?? Is
> > > > > > it actually different at that time??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I thought I tried that on the last one and it looked
> > > > > > correct......but at my
> > > > > > age, I start to wonder if my brain has acquired the
> > > > > > ability to make me think
> > > > > > I did try this or that.....correctly. I wonder if
> > > > > > any of my customers has
> > > > > > suddenly seen me freeze for about 2 seconds to 5
> > > > > > minutes......then suddenly
> > > > > > resume my work.....scares me. Then all those
> > > > > > customer's questions about Hi
> > > > > > Def TV.....distracting...[oops I did it again....got
> > > > > > off-topic ;-) ]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Damon Brunger
> > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services
> > > > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Frank Luu" <fkluu@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 1:02 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6
> > > > > > Chassis Wide/Zoom Convergence
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Damon:
> > > > > > > What you did is correct.Do Full mode first, then
> > > > > > set
> > > > > > > Copy to 1 to copy to normal and zoom mode.(I
> > > > > > notice
> > > > > > > that we still have to fine tuning convergence a
> > > > > > bit
> > > > > > > after Copy).FlashFocus then save.
> > > > > > > Repeat the above for Wide zoom. Size,Line,Pin
> > > > > > etc..
> > > > > > > will be in PJE .
> > > > > > > Have good week end.
> > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- Damon <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yes, these are the NEW service bulletin based
> > > > > > CRTs.
> > > > > > > > Haven't changed any G2
> > > > > > > > settings yet.
> > > > > > > > I normally go into the menu and set Wide menu
> > > > > > > > settings on Full mode, use
> > > > > > > > that same input (I guess I'm leary of pressing
> > > > > > > > 8-Enter to default the entire
> > > > > > > > set) and converge.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I thought I attempted to set the TV to Wide mode
> > > > > > > > after saving the Full mode
> > > > > > > > Convergence, and after accessing the convergence
> > > > > > > > again, it looked good. (I
> > > > > > > > think convergence defaults to full mode format,
> > > > > > am I
> > > > > > > > wrong???)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > If I read this correctly, you're say to do the
> > > > > > full
> > > > > > > > mode convergence 1st,
> > > > > > > > then change the format in the customer menu to
> > > > > > Zoom
> > > > > > > > or Wide Zoom , then
> > > > > > > > access the convergence again, align and
> > > > > > Write....is
> > > > > > > > that it??? BTW I love
> > > > > > > > those PJE Coarse settings, they really speed up
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > alignment.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Damon Brunger
> > > > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services
> > > > > > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "Frank Luu" <fkluu@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 15, 2003 8:36 AM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Sony KP51WS500 RA-6
> > > > > > > > Chassis Wide/Zoom Convergence
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hello Damon:
> > > > > > > > > First, are these new type of CRTs?. Parts #
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > bulletin, not from the schematic. G2 settings
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > affects the convergence settings,as well. I
> > > > > > > > normally
> > > > > > > > > set the set at wide zoom, go into PJE
> > > > > > settings
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > adjust Size,Line, Pin etc.. (# 3 to change
> > > > > > > > color),then
> > > > > > > > > flash focus and save.I fixed about 10 units so
> > > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > without problems.
> > > > > > > > > Frank Luu
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- Damon <DAMON101@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Greetings,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Worked on a KP-51WS500 yesterday, installed
> > > > > > > > CRTs,
> > > > > > > > > > aligned Convergence in
> > > > > > > > > > Full Mode,
> > > > > > > > > > Copied using PJE's Copy command (not ALCP).
> > > > > > This
> > > > > > > > > > supposedly copies the new
> > > > > > > > > > convergence alignment to Full mode and
> > > > > > Normal
> > > > > > > > modes
> > > > > > > > > > without losing the
> > > > > > > > > > "preset zoom parameters" stored in the
> > > > > > EEprom.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Well, Full mode and Normal modes look good,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > alignment for Zoom and
> > > > > > > > > > Wide Zoom modes are mis-aligned left/right
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > top/bottom where Zooming
> > > > > > > > > > becomes active.
> > > > > > > > > > So I decided to try ALCP (copies to all
> > > > > > modes
> > > > > > > > > > theoretically). No Change.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This is what I need: How to adjust the
> > > > > > alignment
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > ZOOM MODE. Any ideas
> > > > > > > > > > where I would find Horiz Size/Linearity and
> > > > > > > > Verticle
> > > > > > > > > > Size/Linearity for each
> > > > > > > > > > color???
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I've been through the Sony website and
> > > > > > > > > > schematics/parameters, looked at
> > > > > > > > > > quite a few bulletins.....and they sure
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > > make
> > > > > > > > > > it obvious. I expect that
> > > > > > > > > > this information will be needed by all
> > > > > > > > authorized
> > > > > > > > > > servicers eventually. I
> > > > > > > > > > just love secret settings....especially at
> > > > > > > > 5:15pm.
> > > > > > > > > > Anybody out there run
> > > > > > > > > > into this yet??
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Really appreciate your help.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Damon Brunger
> > > > > > > > > > Telrad Electronic Services
> > > > > > > > > > Ft Wayne, IN 46815
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