[TechAssist] Re: Pioneer SD-P5183-K In power down

  • From: "Dave" <audioserviceclinic@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 13:05:01 -0800

Yes. It is a Darlington.

Dave

----- Original Message -----
From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:57
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Pioneer SD-P5183-K In power down


>
> FAX sent approx. 2:55 CST
> Walter
> --- Dave <audioserviceclinic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds strange. Can you fax me the page? Send it
> > to 661-296-6803.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:41
> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Pioneer SD-P5183-K In
> > power down
> >
> >
> > >
> > > I believe that this is a darlington.
> > > The transistor Q308, that is in the circuit
> > with
> > > it(and drawn on the pioneer schematic the same
> > way
> > > as Q309) is findable on NTE and subs to a
> > NTE261, a
> > > NPN darlington power transistor.
> > > It does NOT read shorted between emitter and
> > base.
> > > In fact, it's over 70Kohms in circuit.
> > > What has me really puzzled is the fact that the
> > > schematic shows both of these to be two
> > junction
> > > devices with damper and resistor.
> > > The resistor is blocked from the base by the
> > second
> > > junction.
> > > If the 2SD2300 IS a darlington, then the info
> > from
> > > the google search isn't correct. A NTE 2331 is
> > a
> > > horizontal output, but not a darlington.
> > > Walter
> > > --- Dave <audioserviceclinic@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > If we're talking about a HO, yes that would
> > be
> > > > the damper diode, and about
> > > > 40ohms sounds about right. It shows a diode
> > > > junction between
> > > > emitter/collector and base/collector and
> > 40ohms
> > > > between base/emitter? If so,
> > > > yes that's normal.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "walter wood" <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:05
> > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Pioneer SD-P5183-K
> > In
> > > > power down
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't know, It's being used like a
> > horizontal
> > > > > output, although pioneer calls it "High
> > Voltage
> > > > > Det."
> > > > > Walter
> > > > > --- Dave <audioserviceclinic@xxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is kind of out of context, but I
> > think
> > > > you
> > > > > > are describing a digital
> > > > > > transistor, correct?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dave
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "walter wood"
> > <wwood_38478@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: "Tech Assist"
> > <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:55
> > > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Pioneer SD-P5183-K
> > In
> > > > power
> > > > > > down
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This set goes into shutdown
> > immediately.
> > > > > > > Dead, with the led on the front panel
> > red,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > steady burning.
> > > > > > > Relay clicks, but must unplug to get
> > the
> > > > set to
> > > > > > > attempt startup again.
> > > > > > > I found Q309, a 2SD2300 type, reads 40
> > ohms
> > > > > > across
> > > > > > > the base and emitter out of
> > > > circuit.According
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the schematic this shouldn't be. Of
> > course
> > > > it
> > > > > > reads
> > > > > > > shorted in circuit, reads through a
> > coil.
> > > > > > > Q308 is drawn the same way, and does
> > not
> > > > read
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > way. The pioneer schematic indicates a
> > > > diode
> > > > > > and a
> > > > > > > resistor, and two transistor junctions
> > in
> > > > this
> > > > > > > package.
> > > > > > > The NTE on line cross reference does
> > not
> > > > find
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > > transistor, and neither does
> > Tritronics.
> > > > > > > A google search finds some discussion
> > that
> > > > it
> > > > > > can
> > > > > > > be replaced by a NTE2331.
> > > > > > > This had to do with a RCA set.
> > > > > > > Pioneer does not give a part number.
> > > > > > > Can anyone give me any guidance
> > > > troubleshooting
> > > > > > > this set, and finding out about this
> > > > > > transistor??
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > Walter
> > > > > > >
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