I cant argue with you as I rarely make such a measurement. I am just forwarding information that techs have posted on Nesdanet in the past concerning this problem. Jerry Silverman Greentron Inc 4 Newland Ave Greenville SC 29609 864 232 3889 Fax 271 2080 mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx ----- Original Message ----- From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 6:00 PM Subject: Re: [TechAssist] Re: Philips HOT BU2508DF Mis-labeled > Then you need a new ohm meter... > I don't think I have ever seen a HOT with lower than 50 ohms. > > Jeff Dougherty > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > 263 S Front St > Steelton PA 17113 > fax...717-564-4952 > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J Silverman" <greentron@xxxxxxx> > To: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [TechAssist] Re: Philips HOT BU2508DF Mis-labeled > > > I never heard of a "too low" resistance complaint. Complaint was always that > the resistance was too high. On some HOTs the normal level is about 25 ohms. > Jerry Silverman > Greentron Inc > 4 Newland Ave > Greenville SC 29609 > 864 232 3889 > Fax 271 2080 > mailto:greentron@xxxxxxx > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Intrepid Video Support" <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <greentron@xxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:57 AM > Subject: Re: [TechAssist] Re: Philips HOT BU2508DF Mis-labeled > > > > If the resistance is too low, same thing. > > Ideal resistance should be in the 60-70 ohm range. > > > > Jeff Dougherty > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > 263 S Front St > > Steelton PA 17113 > > fax...717-564-4952 > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <greentron@xxxxxxx> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Cc: "Corey Brazell" <cohbraz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:42 PM > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips HOT BU2508DF Mis-labeled > > > > > > Those are counterfeit. Regardless of what other differences there are, > they will burn out quickly without > > the resistor. The resistor damps parasitic oscillations and has to be as > close to the junction as > > possible, which is why they are fabricated internally. No distributor > intentionally ships counterfeits but > > we hear about this thing all the time. Some techs keep a list of the > resistor measurement for a given type > > of hot and check all of the new stock against the list. If the resistor > value is more than 20% above the > > nominal value, they know from experience that the hot wont last. > > J Silverman > > > > > > > That's what it said on PartSeeker, but when I ordered it, it subbed to > that > > > BU2508DF. > > > > > > Regardless, any BU2508DF should have the dampening diode and biasing > > > resistor; I have several older BU2508DF that do and read 40 ohms. But, > > > these new ones that I ordered that all have the same date code not have > > > that resistor. There is around a 2 Meg Ohm resistance between Base and > > > Emitter. > > > > > > So, I have two different BU2508DF transistors. Older ones that are > correct, > > > and newer ones that do not have the biasing resistor. > > > > > > Also, I just noticed that the new DF's don't look the same as the older > > > ones. It looks like they have been re-stamped. The front of these look > as > > > if they have been fine-sanded to a smooth even surface and then stamped. > My > > > older DF's Have three round indentions on the front face. One in the > middle > > > near the bottom, and two toward the top near each side. These new ones > are > > > smooth all the way across. As a matter of fact, I have one that is > stamped > > > on both sides! > > > > > > Corey Brazell > > > Audio Video Electronics > > > 12169 SC Hwy 121 > > > Newberry SC 29108 > > > > > > > > > > [Original Message] > > > > From: Intrepid Video Support <support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Date: 3/30/2004 3:29:48 PM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Philips HOT BU2508DF Mis-labeled > > > > > > > > Corey, > > > > Thanks for the information, but that part number is for Philips S2055, > > > 610597 > > > > > > > > Jeff Dougherty > > > > Intrepid Video TV/VCR > > > > 263 S Front St > > > > Steelton PA 17113 > > > > fax...717-564-4952 > > > > www.intrepid-video.com www.tech-repair.net > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Corey Brazell" <cohbraz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:07 PM > > > > Subject: [TechAssist] Philips HOT BU2508DF Mis-labeled > > > > > > > > > > > > I have received two separate shipments of these BU2508DF transistors > from > > > > Philips, and the transistors do not have the built-in Base-Emitter > bias > > > > resistor. They seem to be a BU2508AF. The transistors in both > shipments > > > > have the same date code: 0231 C2 > > > > > > > > Philips is now running a Stock Check on these parts. They may also be > > > under > > > > part number 4835 130 47897. > > > > > > > > If you have any of these type HOTs, check them! > > > > > > > > > > > > Corey Brazell > > > > Audio Video Electronics > > > > 12169 SC Hwy 121 > > > > Newberry SC 29108 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > - > > > > Lost Password: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > Email Archives: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > - > > > > Lost Password: > > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > > Email Archives: > > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > > Lost Password: > > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > > Email Archives: > > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > Lost Password: > > http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". > > Email Archives: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/ > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". 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