These two had the same problem.CR4111 was shorted on one and leaky on the other. The CTC179 was dead ( shorted diode and the CTC178 was shutting off). Found caps in regulator C4108 and C4106 high ESR and horizontal cap C4305 bad. Everything is running OK so Looks like a common problem. Thanks to Bob@bobs TV for manual. Al Marquardt ampm@xxxxxxx Al Marquardt Electronic Repair 206 W Main Girardville Pa. 17935 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jokes, complaints, off topics, general chat. Everything other than repair help problems can be found at this new list. No archives and posts will not be found on Google or any other engine!To remove or join, click: mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe%20chat Send to the list at chat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx once subscribed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Login Problems?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/