Hi is there another way other than the smart remote to save the vertical settings on this chassis customer doesnt have the smart remote. Thanks fuzz fantajtv belle vernon, pa 15012 ***************************************************************************** The Tech Address Book: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/contact.html Add a Repair Tip Here, or Change/Remove your Email Address: http://www.tech-assist.org/secure/tip/main.html Lost Password: http://www.tech-assist.org and select "Lost your Login Info?". Email Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/techassist/