[TechAssist] Re: ISP's
- From: al <alleathe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 13:37:20 -0500
or don't give a rat's heinie! al
May God give us strength
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Dougherty" <jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 11:52 PM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ISP's
>
> Dean,
> As far as no 'busy signals', this depends on your area.
> Tommy would have to ask others in his area if they have trouble. You are
in
> the minority and know how to set your AOL mail sending format properly,
but
> a lot of others can't figure than part out.
>
> As far as no spy-ware..don't fool yourself. Look at it this way...how
often,
> when you sign on, does AOL come on and automatically update the software?
> No other ISP does this that I am aware. If they can do that.....they can
do
> a lot of things you may not be aware of.
>
> Jeff
> HAPPY HOLIDAYS:PEACE ON EARTH
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> Harrisburg, PA 17111
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Hunthse@xxxxxxx>
> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:48 PM
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: ISP's
>
>
> > Tommy, as you can see from my address you can tell where I'm coming from
> on
> > this subject. I like AOL, I'm not married to it in fact next month I'm
> > getting a cable modem for a faster connection. Some of the arguments
> posted
> > here are not completely factual. I have not received a busy signal from
> AOL
> > for years now. Many years ago when they started unlimited hours for one
> fee,
> > so many switched over, they could not handle the increase in customers
for
> > about 6 months until they upgraded and added more access numbers. I have
> > never been able to not get access to any Web page, anyone out there
please
> > send me an address or some Java related scrip or something you think I
> cannot
> > access by using AOL and I'll let you know if that's true or not. I have
> > filters set so I never get adds or Spam in my E-mail. One main thing I
> like
> > about it is that all these virus's and worms are written to attack and
> spread
> > with Outlook which is not used in AOL that makes me immune to spreading
> them.
> > And up to now over 99% of infections are sent by attachments not HTML
> encoded
> > E-mail. My computer is not taken over with spyware or add-ons that I
don't
> > choose to have, I consistently log on at around 36k. Like I said before
> I'm
> > not married to AOL, get what you want but I just don't have the problems
> so
> > many non AOL users think I have. AOL is so large and many people new to
> this
> > use it so it is easy to bash like Microsoft etc.
> > Dean Hunt
> > Hunt Electronics
> > Palm Springs Ca.
> > > Subj:[TechAssist] Re: ISP's
> > > Date:12/22/2001 4:40:25 AM Pacific Standard Time
> > > From:<A
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> > > To:<A
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> > > Sent from the Internet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > :-) I don't want to start a bashing thread and I hate to put
> > > down what some use, but let's just say, don't use it. Sure,
> > > many "THINK" they use it ok, that's the problem. They
> > > 'think' they do, but 99% of the users don't. AOL posts all
> > > emails in HTML format, sends attachments, terrorizes other
> > > net users and email lists with thread-less replies (and with
> > > attachments and HTML posts if they cannot be stripped and
> > > converted like this list can). AOL is responsible for more
> > > viruses and worms on the net than any other 'thing'.
> > >
> > > In another area, webmasters have to include all sorts of
> > > specialized HTML code in a webpage just so AOL can see their
> > > website like it should be, and even then it's marginal at
> > > best. The AOL browser is VERY odd, non compatible with most
> > > webpage features. You also miss out on a LOT online. Those
> > > that use it don't realize this. There are hundreds, maybe
> > > thousands of features and options available ONLY to IE and
> > > Netscape browsers. Your net experience will be much more
> > > enjoyable with IE and NS. IE and NS is much more
> > > customizable and user friendly for YOU, and just as
> > > important, more user friendly for OTHERS on the internet that
> > > have to put up with AOL problems, and they do not take over
> > > your PC with AOL add-ons and other BS :-) that is spyware,
> > > addware, etc. It is also a resource hog, is not as stable
> > > as NS or IE, it's much slower, and AOL has more disconnects &
> > > busy signals that any other ISP (of course this can rely on
> > > your specific area too). It is also a 'proprietary ISP
> > > software' meaning it takes over your PC.
> > >
> > > This list had to be configured to strip attachments and
> > > convert HTML email to plain text just due to AOL, (and to
> > > lesser extent back then for virus protection, but more so
> > > now), and several paragraphs of special instructions for AOL
> > > users must be posted on a regular basis. All email
> > > newsletters must have within them special "AOL directions"
> > > on how to make the email 'work' as it would in any other
> > > browser.
> > >
> > > Now on a more personal note; I will no longer answer my
> > > business emails from our AOL customers if they delete the
> > > email thread when replying back. I had to add this just for
> > > AOL in my sales autoresponder. When you get about 400
> > > emails a day, (or any amount for that matter) a reply without
> > > the past correspondence is a horror to try and make sense
> > > of it or to try and figure out everything that was previously
> > > discussed in any past emails between myself and an a
> > > customer that is on AOL (prices, quotes, products needed,
> > > PC info, etc...all that is deleted by them). After thousands
> > > of individual emails explaining to PLEASE do not do this, and
> > > even explaining how to properly reply, to the point of going
> > > gray over it, I just delete them now, I can't handle it. Not
> > > worth the added stress.
> > >
> > > Also what really 'gets my goat' is they are trying to take
> > > over the entire internet. I can't go anywhere, do anything,
> > > get my newspaper, get my mail, watch TV or even BUY anything
> > > without seeing "AOL Keyword: [whatever]" and that terrifying
> > > AOL CD in every box of every product sold on this planet!!
> > > This is really inexcusable for the fact that new landfills
> > > have to be created every year just for the discarded AOL
> > > CD's! :-) I think if I was to go to the Moon, or Mars, or
> > > maybe the deepest depths of the ocean, I'd find an AOL CD
> > > there!! I bet the Taliban even have AOL CD's sent to them.
> > > <wink>. (It also appears you must have a "keyword" in
> > > order to get to any website instead of just typing the URL in
> > > the address bar).
> > >
> > > Again, I am NOT trying to offend anyone, these are just the
> > > facts and a few are just my opinion (tried to express in a
> > > benign manner) that I can say from several years of
> > > experience online at LEAST 12 hrs EVERY day, 7 days a
> > > week, 365, never a day off (until this past week). If you
> > > ask experienced internet and PC users, the majority of
> > > them will say the same thing. :-) I actually used AOL for
> > > a very BRIEF period of time, and was horrified by it.
> > >
> > > Please NO arguing on this thread about this subject or
> > > flaring tempers. This is information that all can 'learn' by
> > > if you are perhaps thinking of using AOL and is NOT meant to
> > > offend. If you use AOL and like it, and KNOW how to send in
> > > plain text and not send attachments, and keep email threads
> > > intact, bless you, more power to you, the internet community
> > > sincerely thanks you. For those that don't, well....bless
> > > you too because you need it more <laughs>. I want it CLEAR
> > > that I do HATE AOL and NOT AOL MEMBERS. I apologize
> > > if I have ever offended any AOL members, the stress from
> > > AOL just continues to build and build and build over the
> > > years as I think you can see. Sorry for rambling on. :-)
> > > -Clint
> > >
> > > God Bless Us All & Warmest
> > > Holiday Wishes to Everyone
> > > Clint Hamilton, Owner
> > > http://OrpheusComputing.com
> > > http://ComputerHardware-ConsumerElectronics.com
> > > sales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Fax: 209-882-9602
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> > > (PLEASE include our previous correspondence
> > > if replying to this email!!)
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Tommy Herman" <hermantv@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "Tek Assist" <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 5:01 AM
> > > Subject: [TechAssist] ISP's
> > >
> > >
> > > I recently posted a message to this group about changing
> > > ISP's. Most everyone seems to dis-like AOL . I have tried AOL
> > > for several weeks and have had no problems, however there
> > > must be a good reason you guy's do not like AOL. I would
> > > appreciate it if you would share that info with me.
> > > Tommy Herman...Herman TV
> > > PS...I am also considering Earthlink, and MSN. I have a
> > > friend that uses NET ZERO for only $9.95 per month and has no
> > > problems...what do you guy's know ?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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