[TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we haveonestandard ?
- From: "Hoyt's TV" <hoytstv@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:31:49 -0400
The 78s had a long run. I don't know exactly when they came on the market
but I believe it was very early 1900s.
You don't find many cylinder records that were made after the turn of the
century. The 33 came out in 1947 or 48 and the 45 within a year after the
arrival of the 33. In 1955 when we had to pull Chuck Berry's Maybelline from
the shelves, we had it in both 78 and 45. When the lawsuit was settled and
we were allowed to sell it again, we could no longer get it in 78. So that
was just about the end of the 78. I would say it had a good 50 year life
span.
Russ Hoyt
Hoyt's TV
Exeter, NH
----- Original Message -----
From: <tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:55 AM
Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
haveonestandard ?
> Recorded media is changing faster than ever. People still enjoy their
> collections of 78 records. Is that from the 1920's? Earlier? Now the
> mfgrs want us to dump all our collectible VHS tapes, buy DVD, now
> Blueray says dump those...Not backward usable...Where will it end?
> Phil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christopher Barnak <cbarnak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Friday, June 24, 2005 7:48 am
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
> onestandard ?
>
>> The only TRUE HDTV I've seen, has been a couple of Demos by
> Mitsubishi
>> and Panasonic at
>> the Virginia Professional Electronics Convention. Both times they
> used
>> a HD VCR.
>> Both times the picture was better than ANY NTSC System. I was very
>> impressed.
>> I can't wait till all the dust settles. Then I WILL buy a HDTV.
>> BTW HDTV VCR's have been for sell for 2 years ( I am told).
>>
>> No DVD's can reproduce HD. For that you need the new HD-DVD decks
>> coming to stores very soon.
>> Which a lot of manufacutures have accepted. These units will also
> play
>> old DVD's.
>> But wait ; Toshiba's Blue-Ray DVD's are also coming after HD-
>> DVD. The
>> Blue-Ray decks
>> hold tons more media and now many manufactures are embracing that
>> format also.
>> It's like VHS verses BETA all over again. Blue-Ray is NOT backward
>> compatable to our
>> current DVD system.
>>
>> I think the current thinking is, "Keep changing it, to make the
> money"
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Christopher Barnak, CET
>> Norfolk Public Schools
>> Electronics Maintenance
>> 966 Bellmore Ave.
>> Norfolk, Va. 23504
>>
>> Phone 757 628 3385
>> Fax 757 628 3392
>> cbarnak@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>
>>
>> >>> daryls_tv@xxxxxxx 6/23/2005 9:12:04 AM >>>
>> I have to agree with LeRoy. Give me a good NTSC set and I will
>> put it
>> up a=
>> gainst any of the HD sets. The picture is crappy to say the
>> least.
>> Perhap=
>> s I haven't seen the so called good HD sets. I have a customer that
>> spent =
>> $8,000 for his entertainment center. What a disappointment on my
>> part. My=
>> NTSC set looked better and I didn't spend anything near that and I
>> never w=
>> ill.
>> Daryl
>> Daryl's TV
>> 2402 Wyoming Ave.
>> El Paso, TX 79903
>> 915-565-9184 Voice/Fax
>> daryls_tv@xxxxxxx
>> www.angelfire.com/tv2/daryls_tv
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kevin's TV Repair" <kevintv@xxxxxxx>
>> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we
>> have one
>> sta=
>> ndard ?
>> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 20:58:52 -0700
>>
>> >=20
>> > How can a picture that has 2-4 times the resolution look
>> "phoney"?
>> If
>> > anything it looks more life-like. I have always wanted a larger
>> > picture, and High Def is the way to go to get the best picture.
>> >=20
>> > Kevin Wilks
>> > Kevin's TV Repair
>> > Penticton BC Canada
>> > kevintv@xxxxxxx
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of LeRoy
> Westlund
>> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:39 PM
>> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>> > standard ?
>> >=20
>> > No,...I didn't say that,...but,...since you brought it up,....I see
>> no
>> > need
>> > to change the system. The picture on the NTSC sets is plenty good
>> enough
>> > for
>> > the average Joe Blow.(including me). The picture on a HDTV looks
>> kinda
>> > phoney to me. The old system looks more "life like".
>> > Sometimes,...progress
>> > is not always for the better. The whole direction this country is
>> headed
>> > in,
>> > is fast getting out of hand. We are headed for disaster.
>> >=20
>> > IMO,
>> > LLW
>> >=20
>> > LeRoy Westlund
>> > Westlund TV & Electronics
>> > 97 North Main " I forgot,..to
>> remember,..
>> > Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>> > Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>> > mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>> >=20
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Ron Miller d.b.a. Country TV <rlmbkm@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:17 PM
>> > Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>> one
>> > standard ?
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > > Are you saying you would rather see TV broadcast stay analog NTSC
>> > standard??
>> > > Country TV
>> > > Ron Miller
>> > > Inez, TX. 77968
>> > >
>> > > ----- Original Message -----
>> > > From: "LeRoy Westlund" <llw@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:48 PM
>> > > Subject: [TechAssist] Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have
>> one
>> > standard
>> > > ?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> I disagree.
>> > >> I think big brother is getting nastier with each passing
>> day,...and
>> > when
>> > >> the
>> > >> time comes that they are ready to cram this down our
>> throuts,.....we
>> > >> better
>> > >> be able, and willing to swallow it. Joe Blow (public) in this
>> country
>> > is
>> > >> too
>> > >> weakened by just the everyday struggle to meet thier financial
>> needs,
>> > and
>> > >> obligations. They don't have time to fight this problem,...and
>> will
>> > accept
>> > >> it , just like a heard of sheep that is driven down the road.
> The
>> > dogs
>> > >> will
>> > >> keep um movin.
>> > >>
>> > >> LLW
>> > >>
>> > >> LeRoy Westlund
>> > >> Westlund TV & Electronics
>> > >> 97 North Main " I forgot,..to
>> remember,..
>> > >> Centerfield, UT 84622-0087 to forget "
>> > >> Ph./Fax 435-528-3822
>> > >> mailto:LLW@xxxxxxxxxx
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Al Gutz <alg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:36 PM
>> > >> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will
>> we
>> > haveone
>> > >> standard?
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>> The alloted bandwidth allows one 1080 signal or up to three 480
>> > signals.
>> > >>> Plans were to use 1080 for prime time high profile programs and
>> the
>> > rest
>> > >>> of the time to use lower res and have something like an info,
>> weather
>> > or
>> > >>> shopping channel.
>> > >>> Don't count on NTSC dissapearing too soon. Joe average lower
>> > middleclass
>> > >>> doesn't want to spend the rent money to buy a new TV set, he
>> wants to
>> > >>> come home sit back and relax with a cold one. If he thinks the
>> rich
>> > guys
>> > >>> are taking away his main entertainment, he is going to get ugly
>> and
>> > >>> governments fear the masses getting ugly. If there are
> converter
>> > boxes
>> > >>> then they better be free.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Al G
>> > >>>
>> > >>> tjanphyl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>> > >>>> I suppose much like the PC monitor refresh rates.
>> > >>>> 640x480,800x600,1024x768 and so on. They will be there but
> some
>> > will
>> > >>>> favor one over others for various reasons.Some will be
>> > popular,others
>> > >>>> obscure. When I become king of the planet, all this will
>> change.
>> > >>>> Phil
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >>>> From: Damon <DamonEB@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:16 pm
>> > >>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC
> goes,will
>> we
>> > >>>> have one standard?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Well, the scan rates will not change.....but
>> > >>>>> You'll probably always see 480i , 480p, 720p and 1080i
>> signals,
>> > >>>>> Although I suspect most, if not all TV stations will move
>> towards
>> > >>>>> 1080i,
>> > >>>>> ABC is the only one I know that transmits 720P.
>> > >>>>> So no, you'll see 4 standards.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Damon Brunger
>> > >>>>> Telrad Electronics
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> Al L wrote:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:22 PM
>> > >>>>>> Subject: Fw: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>> > standard?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 1:21 PM
>> > >>>>>>> Subject: Hypothetical: When NTSC goes,will we have one
>> standard?
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I hope that eventually we end up with a simplified sweep
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> system,and only
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> one hdtv standard. How about it?Is there hope?
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Al Leatherman
>> > >>>>>>>> 224 RT. 46
>> > >>>>>>>> Mine Hill, NJ 07803
>> > >>>>>>>> 973-361-5796
>> > >>>>>>>> www.ALS-TV.NET
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
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