[TechAssist] Re: Fw: Re: Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.5 drill Charger

  • From: Edward Gaidies <teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 08:52:42 -0400

Just for laughs...you should have asked how much replacement battery  
will be. ($50) I'll bet.;-)
Providing they have them...period.

-Ed-
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Ed Gaidies      
Tel-Tek Electronics
Ontario-Canada
teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx

On 24-Sep-04, at 8:43 AM, Bruce Tiedeman wrote:

> Sorry the drill cost was $29.
>
> Bruce.
>
> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.5 drill Charger
>
>
>> Hi Warren,
>> I don't want to drag this on. I understand the challenge to fix the  
>> unit.
> I
>> have a name brand Dewalt 9 volt drill. One of the batteries went dead  
>> and
> I
>> threw it away and realized afterwards could have fixed it. Any way the
>> replacement battery was $50 which I did not buy. Name brand is not  
>> what it
>> used to be! Two weeks ago I bought a 12 volt drill with two batteries  
>> at
>> Canadian Tire in Sarnia. (not kidding). What would that work out to  
>> in U.S
>> dollars! Almost as good a deal as Max.
>> It works great still can't get over the price.
>> Bruce.
>>
>> B&T Electronics
>> 139 Margaret St
>> Sarnia Ontario
>> Canada
>> N7T 2Y3
>> 519 344 1850
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Warren C." <warrenca@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:22 PM
>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.5 drill Charger
>>
>>
>>> Max
>>> Your new drill will not be a Riobi. A Riobi does deserve some  
>>> attempt to
>> fix it.
>>> You may have found a great deal there though but for us it's in  
>>> US$$$$
>>> I like the challenge of trying to fix things like this. I don't like  
>>> it
>> when
>>> companies take the numbers off parts.
>>> Do they think that their attempts help them sell all that many more
>> products???
>>> or that I'm going to steal their
>>> circuit??
>>> I wonder?
>>> Perhaps they just like to fill, land fill sites with lots of  
>>> equipment
>> with very
>>> little wrong it.
>>>
>>> Thanks Max   I think that Ed is just kidding around.
>>>
>>> WC
>>>
>>> Old TV Man wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just bought a 14.4 drill with charger and several accessories for
>>>> $29.99 and am getting a $10.00 rebate. www.heartlandamerica.com
>>>>
>>>> Max Bonnell
>>>> Bonnell TV
>>>> Robinson, IL
>>>>
>>>> Sender: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx From:
>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx(Tel-Tek=A0Electronics) Date: Thu, Sep 23, 2004,
>>>> 1:08pm (CDT+1) To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [TechAssist]  
>>>> Re:
>>>> Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.4 drill Charger Reply=A0to:
>>>> techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> Same thing goes for you...you cheap bugger. With your money...go out
> and
>>>> buy a new one. If he lets you dump your Garbage in his bin....you  
>>>> have
> a
>>>> good starting point.
>>>> =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I sort of kid about this stuff, but you are
> all
>>>> starting to realize, it's really not a worthwhile effort, unless  
>>>> your
>>>> own time is written off.
>>>> But an answer to Secondary would be at least 25 to 30 volts.
>>>>
>>>> -Ed-
>>>> Ed Gaidies
>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>> Ontario-Canada
>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Gary McCartney" <gary@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:27 AM
>>>> Subject: [TechAssist] Re: Charging Circuit--Riobi 14.4 drill Charger
>>>>
>>>> Speaking of drill chargers, I have one here that I need to replace  
>>>> the
>>>> power transformer in it. The primary is open and no thermo fuse. The
>>>> drill is a Mastercraft (Canadian Tire, ED- your favourite :) ). How  
>>>> do
> I
>>>> know what secondary voltage to use? The drill is a 14.4V. Off hand,  
>>>> I
>>>> would think that around 18V to 20V winding would be about right. The
>>>> filter cap on the circuit board is rated 35V. Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Now to satisfy the "pitch it and buy new theory", this drill belongs
> to
>>>> a guy who lets me throw all my scrap electronics into his garbage  
>>>> bin
> in
>>>> return for repairing a few things he brings in. I at least need to  
>>>> put
>>>> in an effort on these items. In this case I do have a number of  
>>>> power
>>>> transformers sitting around doing nothing so parting with one is  
>>>> not a
>>>> big deal and it woulf keep me in good company with the bin.
>>>>
>>>> Gary McCartney
>>>> McCartney Electronics
>>>> Guelph Ontario Canada
>>>> Est. 1984
>>>> email: gary (at) number63.ca
>>>>
>>>> Edward Gaidies wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Warren;
>>>> Depending on the Charger, I would presume you have 12.2V from white  
>>>> to
>>>> red, and 12.2V from white red. The white is normally fed back to the
>>>> charger to determine when to go into trickle charge mode. The
>>>> question.....why are you pissing around with this, when you can go  
>>>> to
>>>> Canadian Tire, and buy a Drill with 2 Batteries and a Charger for
>>>> $79.95?:-)
>>>> Reason these Solid State Components have no part numbers on them, is
>>>> because they are not meant to be repaired, and even if there was a
> part
>>>> number, you don't expect to find a Parts Department for this
>>>> company....do you????
>>>> Come on...Get with the program;-)
>>>> I was using a B&D drill for 7 years, Had Internal NI-CAD battery  
>>>> packs
>>>> (2). When I wanted to replace the battery packs, they were $47 each.
> The
>>>> new version of this drill was $49 Retail. You must have a Birthday
>>>> coming up, or an Anniversary...Treat yourself...and if you can't  
>>>> find
>>>> your favourite color.....Paint it. HEHE. Typical Canadian.
>>>> -Ed-
>>>> **********************************************
>>>> Ed Gaidies
>>>> Tel-Tek Electronics
>>>> Ontario-Canada
>>>> teltek3@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>
>>>> On 23-Sep-04, at 7:59 AM, Warren C. wrote:
>>>> Are you suggesting that this three legged device in the charger is a
>>>> protector of
>>>> some kind?
>>>> A white wire leads to it. The other two wires are red and black of
>>>> course.
>>>> When you test for vlotage at the battery itself to this third
> connector
>>>> one finds
>>>> that it is almost at
>>>> ground potential. It's so stupid when companys take the numbers off
>>>> parts!! This
>>>> ticks me off!!
>>>>
>>>> Warren C.
>>>>
>>>> Roger G wrote:
>>>> Third connector usually goes to a thermal protector or some kind of
>>>> protector
>>>>
>>>> Roger G.
>>>> Mr. Fix-It
>>>> Harrisburg, PA 17110 =A0 WebSite- http://mrfixit.netfirms.com
>>>> rogerfixit@xxxxxxxx
>>>> FAX 510-740-3641; Tel: 717-763-7098 (shop) 717-652-1703(home)
>>>> At 11:19 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I hope no one minds this question.
>>>> Does anyone have a circuit diagram of this charging unit. The fast
>>>> charge light does not come on , only the other two lights.
>>>> I also would like to know what the third connector on the battery is
>>>> for. When you follow this wire into the charger you come to an  
>>>> output
>>>> devise (transistor??) that has no numbers on it. (figures eah)
>>>> My theory is that this devise may be bad and the drill batteries are
>>>> fine.
>>>> BTW the main (-) and (+) connections to the battery are on the left
>>>> and
>>>> right side and they connect fine.
>>>> When you test for voltage in the charger at these two points you  
>>>> get a
>>>> reading of 24.6 V
>>>> Can you help???
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>> Warren Campbell
>>>> Campbell's TV & Appliances
>>>> Cannington ON
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