[TCUG] Re: Puffin information
- From: "Welsh, Paul" <Paul.Welsh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2002 14:51:36 +0100
And they look ugly, almost as bad as me! (Drawing up the "Guide to good
practice" it was made clear to the working party that they were a pet hate
of environmentalists, planners etc. Yes I will go and wash my mouth out!)
Using the right brackets the pedestal can go at 0.6m clearance, in line with
the guard rail and have the heads 0.6m clear as well.
On the detection, I have the opinion that there is a fuzzy envelope where
they are a benefit.
Busy city centre sites no footway detection
Fast lightly used main road sites, no detection, because users will wait,
its' too dangerous to do otherwise
In between detection often has a place, but I haven't yet worked out a
detailed logic.
PW
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From: BlackI [mailto:BlackI@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 19 June 2002 14:45
To: 'tcug@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [TCUG] Re: Puffin information
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i prefer the puffin nearside indicator also.
i've converted almost all of my pelicans to puffins now (only 5 pelicans
left out of 30 signal crossings). and haven't had anybody complaining about
the nearside indicator for about 12 months or so.
i did have some problems with pedestrians pressing the push buttons and then
stepping back to lean against a wall etc at the back of the footway whilst
waiting on the signals to change which resulted in a call cancel. but making
the kerbside detection Permanent Demant sorted this and i now rarely fit
kerbside detection at new stand alone puffins.
i've feel that most users up here have got used to the new type of crossing,
but i would like to see a new TV ad campain, or an update of the old "Wish i
brought me brolly" ad
i agree paul, i've yet to be convinced re cranked poles. i'm 6 foot 3, and
feel as if i'm going to bang my head on them.
Iain Black
Technician - Traffic Management
Angus Council Roads Department
County Buildings
Market Street, Forfar, DD8 3WR
Tel: 01307 473172
Fax: 01307 473388
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