[tccrockets] Re: Sat Phone and Blackrock Launches

  • From: James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: TCC chat <tccrockets@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2015 12:12:59 -0800

Excellent!
Yep, $1/minute.

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:32 AM, Airobert <airobert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  In for penny, in for a pounding....
>
> I assume the internet access is though the sat phone and costs $1 a
> minute? Or did I miss something?
>
> Rz
>
>  Hey Richard does Paypal work for you?
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>
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> *From:* tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> tccrockets-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *James Dougherty
> *Sent:* Monday, March 2, 2015 11:17 PM
> *To:* TCC chat
> *Subject:* [tccrockets] Re: Sat Phone and Blackrock Launches
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> Did I also mention the first 9 people who donate will be the ones making
> the designs/plans on the Blackrock launches?
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> Hurry - act fast :-)
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> On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 11:09 PM, James Dougherty <jafrado@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
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> Hi Folks,
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> In order to file the Waiver for Blackrock, we need to be able to
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> contact the FAA with 100% certainty at all times. The problem is that
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> cell service still is not 100% guaranteed on the playa (yes, there are
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> lingering base-stations and service on the playa for Burning man but
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> that is not guaranteed).
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> I'm looking for nine (9) volunteers who will donate $120 to the club
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> with me so that we may invest in proper satellite gear so and we may
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> do our own Blackrock launches.
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> The plan is to get an Iridium Extreme 9575 Satellite phone and
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> AxcessPoint Wi-Fi Accessory so that we can conduct operations with the
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> FAA (and have email/Internet access) on the playa (independent of any
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> basestations that may be in a transient operational state as leftovers
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> from Burning man).
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> I've researched this heavily on price/performance and talked to some
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> experts (including one of the original Motorola comms guys who did
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> Iridium early architecture and deployment). This is probably a good
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> post you may want to share with friends, but here's the current state
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> of the art for consumers under $2K (not geek gear).
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> Satphone - two competing real services for consumers
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> - Inmarsat
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> - Iridium
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> Inmarsat - Current issue is the high satellite orbit and only 3 active
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> satellites. plus side is that they are low cost, minus side is that
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> you need to be stationary to use it. Good service if you're not moving
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> - but what if you are in a car? Or an Airplane? what's the point of
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> having a sat-phone if you can't use it as intended? If you're sitting
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> and not at the nnorth/south poles - it will work and entry cost ~ $700
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> for the phone.
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> Iridium - their service and history has been rocky, but from a
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> technical perspective, their solutions are the best and will scale for
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> the long run.  11 satellites are in geosynchonous (and lower) orbit.
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> Will work at any location and any time and service will even work at
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> the poles (truly global coverage). Guaranteed (by design) to work
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> almost anytime. Entry cost higher - $1000 for the basic phone.
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> Wi-Fi and Internet
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> The other aspect is Internet usage, we would like to have a system
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> that supports reasonable (e.g. circa 90's 56k dial-up) so we can surf
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> and/or read email or send important updates out to the chat as the
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> launch progresses.
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> Pricing
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> All of the units use SIM cards (like an existing smartphone). The SIM
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> card comes with a number, and you can keep that number and recharge as
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> you go (or change the plan to be a fixed price servcie contract). For
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> example, and this is what TCC would do - you can buy 100 minutes for
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> $100 so it's about $1/minute. For a big event like our own Blackrock
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> event, we could load it up with $200 and have a solid 3+hrs of usage.
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> The Plan
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> The plan is simple - we get 10 people - well make that nine (i'm in of
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> course) who can donate $120 to the club for the Satphone gear - this
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> would be the high end extreme edition with the Wi-Fi accespoint - it's
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> a special pricing and deal so we have to act fast (within 1 month).
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> Notes
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> - If you're worried about the cost - look at it this way - you're
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> not going to fly a motor for one launch :-)
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>
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> - Club will own the phone
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>
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> - added benefit for the first lucky 9 - off-season we'll let you use
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> the phone for some number of minutes that you can re-imburse :-)
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> - We can add minutes as we go
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> - No charge for inbound calls first minute
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> - GUARANTEED ACCESS
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> Actions
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> Anyhow, who's in with me? This is everyone's chance to step up on the club
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> in a big way - we can run our own serious EX launches at Blackrock and have
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> a really great and fun time. Most importantly (and this is the real goal),
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> we can have a dedicated 100% guaranteed way to contact the FAA and conduct
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> flight operations.
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> Send email and ACK this message, more importantly send check to
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> Richard or bring $120 to the next launch.
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> Based on the response, we'll plan for the Blackrock launches.
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> Thank you
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> -James
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