There's preload somewhere in the beam. Either the adjusters are bot 100 percent in line or theres some internal bind. In your baja sorry your daughter's baja don't you like the bounce? ;) -----Original Message----- From: "Sammie Smith" <slsmith@xxxxxxxxx> To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: 9/29/06 5:34 PM Subject: [tcb] Re: suspension q&a Ok Will, you've got some points. But I have 2 lowered cars with link pin fronts (short shocks) they are both tighter than a drum on the suspension without bottoming the shocks. You can't bounce either of these cars by hand at the front bumper. Also, have a raised beam on the Baja with ball joint suspension and stock shocks. Same thing; the front end has almost no give. At 04:26 PM 9/28/2006, you wrote: >Actually, the rough ride is usually from a few things. > >1) Shorter Shocks used in most lowering situations (remember the shock >tower pivots are in the same place) must be shorter, therefore they have >slightly harder dampening and rebound rates. Lowered bugs without shocks >(and shock towers) ride smoothly unless they're narrowed beams (see >below), however for safety reasons NFW would I ever own a VW or any car >without some sort of suspension dampening. Even with short shocks you can >sometimes bottom them out. > >2) In Ball Joint front ends your suspension travels on the ball joints, if >the angles for the suspension become too acute it will affect ride. Link >Pin suspensions don't suffer this problem. > >3) Along with lowered suspension, you get lower profile tires with stiffer >ride characteristics.