There are actually 4 Vanagon engines. The 2.0 liter air cooled (oilercooler), the 1.9 liter digijet, the 2.1 liter digifaunt, and the diesel. sorry to let you down but not all vanagons are water cooled so that part of it wouldn't hold true but the 2.0 water cooled motor i always thought was called a waterboxer because of it's shape but only vanagons have this motor so i guess either way. but everywhere i see just the motor it says waterboxer. so i don't really know. after 83 is when they put the water cooled gas motor in the american models i don't know about anyone else or anything else such as diesel. i just know my friend jason has an original 83 aircooled vanagon. >From: "Denis Dodson" >Reply-To: tcb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: >CC: "Chuck Blue" >Subject: [tcb] Is Dan full of it? >Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 09:49:00 -0600 > >Last night I called all watercooled VWs waterboxers. Dan says that only >Vanagons are waterboxers, boxes with water-cooled engines. > >I say that all water-cooled VWs are waterboxers, meaning, I guess that >their engines are boxes with water. And if that is not the case, I hearby >make it so. From now on all water-cooled VWS will be called waterboxers. > >The beauty of the English language is it's ability to change and absorb new >traditions. _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement