I think I remember her ? That's why we have the plastic with the handles , you loop the handles under their arms and they can't get the bag off ,like you could with paper .. This can be done by male or female . --- TheresaBuckner@xxxxxxx wrote: > hey Paul Would you by any chance know my > EX wife ?????? she > is a two bagger ?? Terry > > > > ************************************** See what's > new at http://www.aol.com > Paul Smith www.23window.com/thezone T.C.B. H.B.B.