FWI for anyone interested; I will taking my 7in refractor along with another friend with an 18 dob to Sunrise on Sat night. You are all welcome; the more the merrier. You are well come to call me at home; (name if the phone book) if you want. Remember you can not sleep there. You can stay up all night; but camping is not allowed. It will be cool. Dress appropriately. cjacobson