why not hire the smokers with the understanding that they will be paying extra in health insurance. Then again the people who are over weight will be treated the same way. They are going after the people with the unhealthy lifestyles what ever that is.
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Interesting. Norine -----Original Message-----From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On BehalfOf Sila Miller Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 3:52 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: smokers: the next group not hired What is this world coming to? Is this America? I guess that since, for the most part, the ADA protects blind people they can't blatantly pick on us anymore? Until we begin to risk radicalism we're going to just have to swallow... So many battles that need to be fought and so few people who are sick and tired to fight them... What a crock... No, I'm not a smoker but smokers sure do pay their share of taxes which benefit us all! Fed up and disgusted, Sila----- Original Message ----- From: "Allison and Chip Orange" <acorange@xxxxxxxxxxx>To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2012 8:25 PM Subject: [tabi] smokers: the next group not hiredBelow is an article run in news papers across the country today. I'm wondering if non-smokers are cheaper as employees, then who else might be cheaper? non-disabled employees? Employees who aren't over-weight? I certainly hope this doesn't turn out to be legal. Chip ---------- Workplaces ban not only smoking, but smokers themselves By Wendy Koch, USA TODAY Twenty-nine states and the District of Columbia have laws that protect smokers' rights More job-seekers are facing an added requirement: no smoking - at work or anytime. An increasing number of employers won't hire applicants whose urine tests positive for nicotine use, whether from cigarettes, smokeless tobacco or even patches. An increasing number of employers won't hire applicants whose urine tests positive for nicotine use, whether from cigarettes, smokeless tobacco or even patches. As bans on smoking sweep the USA , an increasing number of employers - primarily hospitals - are also imposing bans on smokers. They won't hire applicants whose urine tests positive for nicotine use, whether cigarettes, smokeless tobacco or even patches. Such tobacco-free hiring policies, designed to promote health and reduce insurancepremiums, took effect this month at the Baylor Health Care System in Texasand will apply at the Hollywood Casino in Toledo, Ohio, when it opens this year. STORY: Humana won't hire smokers in Arizona "We have to walk the walk if we talk the talk," says Dave Fotsch of Idaho's CentralDistrict Health Department, which voted last month to stop hiring smokers.Each year, smoking or exposure to secondhand smoke causes 443,000 premature deaths and costs the nation $193 billion in health bills and lost productivity, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC says 19.3% of U.S. adults smoked last year, down from 42.4% in 1965. "We're trying to promote a complete culture of wellness," says Marcy Marshall of the Geisinger Health System in Danville, Pa., which begins its nicotine-free hiring next month. "We're not denying smokers their right to tobacco products. We're just choosing not to hire them." The policies stir outrage, even in the public health community."These policies represent employment discrimination. It's a very dangerousprecedent," says Michael Siegel, a professor at Boston University's School of Public Health. He says the restrictions punish smokers rather than helping them quit. "What's next? Are you not going to hire overly-caffeinated people?" asks Nate Shelman,a smoker and Boise's KBOI radio talk show host whose listeners debated thetopic last month. "I'm tired of people seeing smokers as an easy piñata." After several companies, including Alaska Airlines, adopted smoker-hiring bans a couple of decades ago, the tobacco industryand the American Civil Liberties Union lobbied for smoker rights. As a result, 29 states and the District of Columbia passed smoker-protection laws. Some laws exempt non-profit groups and the health care industry, and 21 states have no rules against nicotine-free hiring. Federal laws allow nicotine-free hiring because they don't recognize smokers as a protected class, says Chris Kuzynski with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. There's no data on how many U.S. businesses won't hire smokers, but the trend appears strongest with hospitals, says Lewis Maltby, president of the National Workrights Institute, a non-profit offshoot of the ACLU that opposes the hiring bans. Many of the new policies expand on smoke-free workplace rules. At Bon Secours Virginia Health System, more than 300 employees have kicked the habit since its campuses went smoke-free in 2009, and one applicant did so since it began nicotine-free hiring Nov. 30, says administrative director Kim Coleman. The bottom line will benefit because health care costs for tobacco users are $3,000 to $4,000 more each year than for non-smokers, says Bon Secours' Cindy Stutts. "There's also an impact on productivity," she says, because smokers take more breaks.Paul Billings of the American Lung Association says he's seen no data thatprovenicotine-free hiring gets people to quit. He says cessation programs are abetter bet. Still, his group won't hire smokers: "We're non-smoking exemplars." 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