I'd be glad to offer help with WE if help is ever needed. You can email me during the day at corange@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx or call at 413-6314. I'm pretty sure Robert has also offered any help, but I too made the switch from JFW, and so felt like I should offer to help anyone with WE. Chip -----Original Message----- From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bubba Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:19 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Demonstrations of the New Mac OS Lion! Well it is no different than learning any new screen reader or technology. I am a JFW user also and in the process of learning WE and having a terrible time with it. So it depends on the person and how well they adapt. So what is a slight learning curve to me might be a big one for someone else! I think the biggest thing is learning that you have to interact with stuff as with JFW you don't it is all together. Apple does this so they say as to try to give you as much experience as what a seeing person would do they say. As a seeing person most of my life this might be the case for you skim something then when it is something you want to know more about you stop and interact with it to learn more about it. If you don't care really you just by pass it . So this is what Apple is attempting to do with Voice Over on the Mac is make it like the you are a seeing person. I know this is not exactly what you wanted to know but the best I can do. HTH Bubba bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of blindwilly Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 10:08 PM To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tabi] Re: Demonstrations of the New Mac OS Lion! Bubba, My concern lately is, what are the commands, and what is the learning curve? I am sure disenfranchised with Jaws, but it really has worked for me for many years. Willy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bubba" <bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx> To: <tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:38 PM Subject: [tabi] Re: Demonstrations of the New Mac OS Lion! >I own a iphone, Ipad and hopefully the new iphone when it comes out and >as quick as I can afford to get one a Mac. But I like to learn as much >as I can about any technology that is helpful to us blind people and >possible in the long run or short run save us money and give us great >accessibilty. I sure there is several Mac users on here or Mac want to >bee's ! JMT ! > > > Bubba > bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx > > > -----Original Message----- > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Allison and Chip Orange > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 9:27 PM > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [tabi] Re: Demonstrations of the New Mac OS Lion! > > I'm just curious, does this have anything to do with I-phones and I-pads? > or do you own both a mac and an I-phone? > > thanks. > > Chip > > > ________________________________ > > From: tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tabi-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of Bubba > Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2011 8:41 PM > To: tabi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [tabi] Demonstrations of the New Mac OS Lion! > > > > See these demonstrations of Lion the new OS for Mac. There is also other > very helpful Mac stuff here also. This is done by the Owner/Mod for the > email list that I am on for Mac. It is called mac4theblind. So see link > and > enjoy! > > > > http://macfortheblind.com/?page_id=25 > > > > > > Bubba > > bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:bubbathegeek@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > Check out the TABI resource web page at > http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI > and please make suggestions for new material. > > > > if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web > interface, or by sending an email to the address > tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject. Check out the TABI resource web page at http://acorange.home.comcast.net/TABI and please make suggestions for new material. if you'd like to unsubscribe you can do so through the freelists.org web interface, or by sending an email to the address tabi-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word "unsubscribe" in the subject.