Quite right, Chris… we’re free to choose to read or not even unpleasant
bickering aiming at having the last word! Though an overdose can be irritating!
Anyway, I’m all for the Voltairean principle: “I wholly disapprove of what you
say—and will defend to the death your right to say it.” Ie, maybe agreeing to
disagree is in some cases best?
Cheers to you and all,
Donna
Donna R. Miller
Alma Mater Professor
Department of Modern Languages, Literatures and Cultures
Alma Mater Studiorum - University of Bologna
https://donnarosemiller.academia.edu/
Da: sys-func-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <sys-func-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Per conto di
Dr ChRIS CLÉiRIGh
Inviato: giovedì 7 marzo 2024 23:34
A: sys-func@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Oggetto: [sys-func] Re: informal fallacy of the week
David,
I post the fallacies in case scholars on sysfunc find them helpful.
Those who don't can simply delete them without reading them.
Why not let the readers decide what they do and don't read?
dr chris cléirigh
To make your children capable of honesty is the beginning of education.
— John Ruskin
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Some Of My Sites
Review of Modelling Paralanguage Using
SFS<https://modelling-paralanguage.blogspot.com/>
Review of Axial Relations<https://axial-relations.blogspot.com/>
Intellectual Applications of SFL
Theory<http://informingthoughts.blogspot.com.au/>
Conclusions from Intellectual Applications of SFL
Theory<https://meta-sfl-theory.blogspot.com/>
The Opposite of Social Media<https://mental-projection.blogspot.com/>
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On Fri, 8 Mar 2024 at 08:40, 데이브드켈로그/_교수_영어교육과
<dkellogg60@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:dkellogg60@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Chris--
Here are two arguments against posting "informal logical fallacies" instead of
actual linguistic (theoretical and practical) work on our list. See which you
find more convincing.
a) The posting of informal logical fallacies facilitates petty one-up-manship;
it's something people (overwhelmingly white men) do instead of real research,
because it yields smugness and self-satisfaction without responsibility--and
without results. (It is also cowardly because, as we saw with your very first
example, it means you can insinuate and hint at names instead of engaging
flesh-and-blood thinkers and their actual arguments!)
b) Informal logic, like formal logic, is simply one form of logic. But logic
is, by its very nature, an abstraction based on millenia of historical
generalization. Logic always requires some kind of mediating system of
concepts--always domain specific--before it can be applied. This is why one
kind of logic obtains in arithmetic (where differences are always significant)
and a different kind in statistics (where differences can be insignificant).
This is why we have one kind of logic in the human sciences (where societies
that look after the old, the poor, and the sick are considered more evolved)
and a different kind in biology (where the survival of the infirm tends to
devolution and extinction). As Vygotsky said, a "Marxist psychology" would be
as sterile as a Marxist mineralogy:
(Personally, I find BOTH of them convincing; I suppose that means I am either
tone-deaf or tone-unpoliced....)
dk
2024년 3월 8일 (금) 오전 6:00, Dr ChRIS CLÉiRIGh
<c.cleirigh@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:c.cleirigh@xxxxxxxxx>>님이 작성:
Dear Scholars,
Here is another informal fallacy which might prove helpful in assessing the
validity of arguments on email list discussions.
· Tone policing<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing> – focusing
on emotion behind (or resulting from) a message rather than the message itself
as a discrediting tactic.
dr chris cléirigh
To make your children capable of honesty is the beginning of education.
— John Ruskin
====================================
Some Of My Sites
Review of Subjacency Duplexes<https://subjacencyduplex.blogspot.com/>
Review of Modelling Paralanguage Using
SFS<https://modelling-paralanguage.blogspot.com/>
Review of Factoring Out Structure<https://yaegandoran.blogspot.com/>
Review of Embodied Meaning<https://sflparalanguage.blogspot.com/>
Review of Lexis As Most Local
Context<https://lexisasmostlocalcontext.blogspot.com/>
Review of Axial Relations<https://axial-relations.blogspot.com/>
Review of A Theory of Syntax for Systemic Functional
Linguistics<http://cardiff-grammar.blogspot.com.au/>
Review of Deploying Functional
Grammar<https://deployingfunctionalgrammar.blogspot.com/>
Review of Working With Discourse<http://workingwithdiscourse.blogspot.com.au/>
Review of Bateman's Review of English
Text<http://master-bateman.blogspot.com.au/>
Review of Lexicogrammatical
Cartography<https://lexicogrammaticalcartography.blogspot.com/>
Review of English Text<http://discourse-semantics.blogspot.com.au/>
Learning From Mistakes<http://thoughts-that-cross-my-mind.blogspot.com.au/>
Primate Dominance Strategies<https://attitude-in-sfl.blogspot.com/>
The Culture of the SFL Community<https://whatliesbeneathsfl.blogspot.com/>
SFL Theory<http://systemictheory.blogspot.com/>
Sample SFL Analyses<http://sys-func.blogspot.com.au/>
Answers to Analysis Questions on Email Lists<http://sysfling.blogspot.com.au/>
General SFL Matters<http://thethoughtoccurs.blogspot.com.au/>
Intellectual Applications of SFL
Theory<http://informingthoughts.blogspot.com.au/>
Conclusions from Intellectual Applications of SFL
Theory<https://meta-sfl-theory.blogspot.com/>
The Opposite of Social Media<https://mental-projection.blogspot.com/>
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--
David Kellogg
Sangmyung University
New article with Hailing Yu in Integrative Psychological and Behavioral Science.
"Hot Wind, Cold Sun: Kuhn, Vygotsky, Halliday and Metaphors in Science and
Science Education"
https://rdcu.be/dsX2E
