[sys-func] Re: Appeal to accomplishment

  • From: 데이브드켈로그/_교수_영어교육과 <dkellogg60@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: sys-func@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 08:04:27 +0900

Chris--

There's a basic distinction between proposing an argument and asking a
question.What really happened was that I asked a question about clause
complexing. It was a real question, not an argument.

Then I got a bunch of ungrammatical gobbledygook about the quality of my
work in reply.

Perhaps you forget that it was YOU who raised my accomplishments, not me.
But perhaps your last post is a self-criticism. If so, apology accepted.

Donna--

This in response to the "politics of exclusion" part of your chapter.

Annabelle has made the point that gender bias has a lot to do with the
neglect of Hasan's work, and I am sure she's right. I think, actually, that
the style of proposing arguments and finding logical fallacies is curiously
gender biased, and Hasan was far more inclined to that style than Halliday
was. The argumentative style that is tolerated in men (I am a case in
point; Chris an even clearer one) is often absolutely rejected in female
scholars.

But the bias that most disturbs me is even uglier. Peter E. Jones hijacked
a whole special issue of "Language and Education" in order to besmirch
Hasan's work in educational linguistics as elitist and exclusionist. The
arguments he made ("deficit linguistics") are simply barely retreaded
versions of Labov's criticisms of Bernstein, and actually framed as such
(because of course Hasan could make no original contributions of her own,
could she?)

When I tried to get him to debate (and even got the editor of Language and
Education on board) he backed out. (I did, eventually, write a reply in
Outlines, which he ignored).

Very fed up with white dudes who use "exclusionism" to exclude the work of
our very best female Asian scholars,
dk

2024년 4월 12일 (금) 오전 7:02, Dr ChRIS CLÉiRIGh <c.cleirigh@xxxxxxxxx>님이 작성:

Dear Scholars,

This week's informal logical fallacy is the appeal to accomplishment.

Appeal to accomplishment
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_accomplishment> – an assertion
is deemed true or false based on the accomplishments of the proposer.


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