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Lincoln Ross <lr21643@xxxxxxxxx>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 00:59:26 -0400Subject:
[sugpro] severely gelled denatured alcohol or solid that burns like etMy
brother and I were just reminiscing about the infamous (to us) fondueincident*,
which would have been prevented by Sterno. This got me wonderingif Sterno could
be used with potassium nitrate as rocket fuel. Propep seemsto think that a rich
mix of ethanol and KNO3 would burn pretty cool,although perhaps that means it
wouldn't burn at all. Then, of course, onewonders whether it's possible to gell
it enough to use as rocket fuel, orJetex fuel, which doesn't have to withstand
as much acceleration.Speaking of cool burning, it would be nice to have
something which couldquickly measure the temperature of a Jetex motor (maybe
.6" OD?) to comparefuels, and maybe help me come up with something that
wouldn't melt thealuminum versions. I might also use when cooking something
that mighteventually go into solid rocket fuel.I could use a thermocouple, I
suppose, but then I think I'd need somethingexpensive to read it. My voltmeters
are all cheapies and I doubt they'dgive good readings. The motors in question
are, as mentioned, maybe 06" indiameter and might be tricky with infrared
thermometers.*Not to worry, only the curtains were
harmed.------------------------------From: Abraham Baker
<abrahambaker104@xxxxxxxxx>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 08:26:31 +0300Subject:
[sugpro] Re: severely gelled denatured alcohol or solid that burnsI've never
tried anything with Sterno, but I've tried a few experimentswith KNO3 and 99%
isopropyl alcohol. The mixture is thoroughly unignitablewith any heat source
I've been able to find...-AbrahamOn Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 7:59 AM Lincoln Ross
<lr21643@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> My brother and I were just reminiscing about the
infamous (to us) fondue> incident*, which would have been prevented by Sterno.
This got me wondering> if Sterno could be used with potassium nitrate as rocket
fuel. Propep seems> to think that a rich mix of ethanol and KNO3 would burn
pretty cool,> although perhaps that means it wouldn't burn at all. Then, of
course, one> wonders whether it's possible to gell it enough to use as rocket
fuel, or> Jetex fuel, which doesn't have to withstand as much acceleration.>>
Speaking of cool burning, it would be nice to have something which could>
quickly measure the temperature of a Jetex motor (maybe .6" OD?) to compare>
fuels, and maybe help me come up with something that wouldn't melt the>
aluminum versions. I might also use when cooking something that might>
eventually go into solid rocket fuel.>> I could use a thermocouple, I suppose,
but then I think I'd need something> expensive to read it. My voltmeters are
all cheapies and I doubt they'd> give good readings. The motors in question
are, as mentioned, maybe 06" in> diameter and might be tricky with infrared
thermometers.>>>> *Not to worry, only the curtains were
harmed.>------------------------------From: Bruce Beck <bbeck7@xxxxxxxxx>Date:
Thu, 25 Apr 2024 23:39:18 -0600Subject: [sugpro] Re: severely gelled denatured
alcohol or solid thatAll you can expect from a low boiling point flammable
liquid like that isfor it to boil off and maybe combust with the oxygen in the
air.On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:27 PM Abraham Baker
<abrahambaker104@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:> I've never tried anything with Sterno, but
I've tried a few experiments> with KNO3 and 99% isopropyl alcohol. The mixture
is thoroughly unignitable> with any heat source I've been able to find...>
-Abraham>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 7:59 AM Lincoln Ross <lr21643@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:>>> My brother and I were just reminiscing about the infamous (to us)
fondue>> incident*, which would have been prevented by Sterno. This got me
wondering>> if Sterno could be used with potassium nitrate as rocket fuel.
Propep seems>> to think that a rich mix of ethanol and KNO3 would burn pretty
cool,>> although perhaps that means it wouldn't burn at all. Then, of course,
one>> wonders whether it's possible to gell it enough to use as rocket fuel,
or>> Jetex fuel, which doesn't have to withstand as much acceleration.>>>>
Speaking of cool burning, it would be nice to have something which could>>
quickly measure the temperature of a Jetex motor (maybe .6" OD?) to compare>>
fuels, and maybe help me come up with something that wouldn't melt the>>
aluminum versions. I might also use when cooking something that might>>
eventually go into solid rocket fuel.>>>> I could use a thermocouple, I
suppose, but then I think I'd need>> something expensive to read it. My
voltmeters are all cheapies and I doubt>> they'd give good readings. The motors
in question are, as mentioned, maybe>> 06" in diameter and might be tricky with
infrared thermometers.>>>>>>>> *Not to worry, only the curtains were
harmed.>>>------------------------------From: Lincoln Ross
<lr21643@xxxxxxxxx>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 02:52:47 -0400Subject: [sugpro] Re:
severely gelled denatured alcohol or solid thatSo maybe it needs to be a minor
constituent. But that still leaves theevaporation during storage problem.On
Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:39 AM Bruce Beck <bbeck7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> All you can
expect from a low boiling point flammable liquid like that is> for it to boil
off and maybe combust with the oxygen in the air.>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at
11:27 PM Abraham Baker <abrahambaker104@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:>>> I've never tried
anything with Sterno, but I've tried a few experiments>> with KNO3 and 99%
isopropyl alcohol. The mixture is thoroughly unignitable>> with any heat source
I've been able to find...>> -Abraham>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 7:59 AM
Lincoln Ross <lr21643@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>>> My brother and I were just
reminiscing about the infamous (to us) fondue>>> incident*, which would have
been prevented by Sterno. This got me wondering>>> if Sterno could be used with
potassium nitrate as rocket fuel. Propep seems>>> to think that a rich mix of
ethanol and KNO3 would burn pretty cool,>>> although perhaps that means it
wouldn't burn at all. Then, of course, one>>> wonders whether it's possible to
gell it enough to use as rocket fuel, or>>> Jetex fuel, which doesn't have to
withstand as much acceleration.>>>>>> Speaking of cool burning, it would be
nice to have something which could>>> quickly measure the temperature of a
Jetex motor (maybe .6" OD?) to compare>>> fuels, and maybe help me come up with
something that wouldn't melt the>>> aluminum versions. I might also use when
cooking something that might>>> eventually go into solid rocket fuel.>>>>>> I
could use a thermocouple, I suppose, but then I think I'd need>>> something
expensive to read it. My voltmeters are all cheapies and I doubt>>> they'd give
good readings. The motors in question are, as mentioned, maybe>>> 06" in
diameter and might be tricky with infrared thermometers.>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not to
worry, only the curtains were harmed.>>>>>------------------------------From:
Bruce Beck <bbeck7@xxxxxxxxx>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 13:12:27 -0600Subject:
[sugpro] Re: severely gelled denatured alcohol or solid thatyesOn Fri, Apr 26,
2024 at 12:53 AM Lincoln Ross <lr21643@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:> So maybe it needs to
be a minor constituent. But that still leaves the> evaporation during storage
problem.>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:39 AM Bruce Beck <bbeck7@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:>>> All you can expect from a low boiling point flammable liquid like
that is>> for it to boil off and maybe combust with the oxygen in the air.>>>>
On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:27 PM Abraham Baker <abrahambaker104@xxxxxxxxx>>>
wrote:>>>>> I've never tried anything with Sterno, but I've tried a few
experiments>>> with KNO3 and 99% isopropyl alcohol. The mixture is thoroughly
unignitable>>> with any heat source I've been able to find...>>>
-Abraham>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 7:59 AM Lincoln Ross
<lr21643@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>>>>> My brother and I were just reminiscing about
the infamous (to us)>>>> fondue incident*, which would have been prevented by
Sterno. This got me>>>> wondering if Sterno could be used with potassium
nitrate as rocket fuel.>>>> Propep seems to think that a rich mix of ethanol
and KNO3 would burn pretty>>>> cool, although perhaps that means it wouldn't
burn at all. Then, of course,>>>> one wonders whether it's possible to gell it
enough to use as rocket fuel,>>>> or Jetex fuel, which doesn't have to
withstand as much acceleration.>>>>>>>> Speaking of cool burning, it would be
nice to have something which>>>> could quickly measure the temperature of a
Jetex motor (maybe .6" OD?) to>>>> compare fuels, and maybe help me come up
with something that wouldn't melt>>>> the aluminum versions. I might also use
when cooking something that might>>>> eventually go into solid rocket
fuel.>>>>>>>> I could use a thermocouple, I suppose, but then I think I'd
need>>>> something expensive to read it. My voltmeters are all cheapies and I
doubt>>>> they'd give good readings. The motors in question are, as mentioned,
maybe>>>> 06" in diameter and might be tricky with infrared
thermometers.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not to worry, only the curtains were
harmed.>>>>>>>------------------------------From: Lincoln Ross
<lr21643@xxxxxxxxx>Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2024 15:28:29 -0400Subject: [sugpro] Re:
severely gelled denatured alcohol or solid thatOne could store the motors in a
jar of alcohol.On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 3:12 PM Bruce Beck <bbeck7@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:> yes>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 12:53 AM Lincoln Ross <lr21643@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:>>> So maybe it needs to be a minor constituent. But that still leaves
the>> evaporation during storage problem.>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 1:39 AM
Bruce Beck <bbeck7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>>> All you can expect from a low boiling
point flammable liquid like that>>> is for it to boil off and maybe combust
with the oxygen in the air.>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2024 at 11:27 PM Abraham
Baker <>>> abrahambaker104@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>>>>> I've never tried anything
with Sterno, but I've tried a few experiments>>>> with KNO3 and 99% isopropyl
alcohol. The mixture is thoroughly unignitable>>>> with any heat source I've
been able to find...>>>> -Abraham>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 26, 2024 at 7:59 AM
Lincoln Ross <lr21643@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:>>>>>>>>> My brother and I were just
reminiscing about the infamous (to us)>>>>> fondue incident*, which would have
been prevented by Sterno. This got me>>>>> wondering if Sterno could be used
with potassium nitrate as rocket fuel.>>>>> Propep seems to think that a rich
mix of ethanol and KNO3 would burn pretty>>>>> cool, although perhaps that
means it wouldn't burn at all. Then, of course,>>>>> one wonders whether it's
possible to gell it enough to use as rocket fuel,>>>>> or Jetex fuel, which
doesn't have to withstand as much acceleration.>>>>>>>>>> Speaking of cool
burning, it would be nice to have something which>>>>> could quickly measure
the temperature of a Jetex motor (maybe .6" OD?) to>>>>> compare fuels, and
maybe help me come up with something that wouldn't melt>>>>> the aluminum
versions. I might also use when cooking something that might>>>>> eventually go
into solid rocket fuel.>>>>>>>>>> I could use a thermocouple, I suppose, but
then I think I'd need>>>>> something expensive to read it. My voltmeters are
all cheapies and I doubt>>>>> they'd give good readings. The motors in question
are, as mentioned, maybe>>>>> 06" in diameter and might be tricky with infrared
thermometers.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Not to worry, only the curtains were
harmed.>>>>>>>>>------------------------------End of sugpro Digest V10
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