Rob, I no longer need the other two kinds of fades in the cross fade module. I was thinking that they would keep the little decrease in volume in the middle of the crossfade from occurring, but that is no longer happening. Here is what I do, and it might help others who have the same problem. As I said, when I do a cross fade, I do get a bit of volume decrease in the middle of the fade. This is especially noticeable when doing a short cross fade of about 2 seconds. By the way, I have the trouble with cross fade fading out a bit in sound forge, and while there is a way to fix this, you need sighted help to first get it set up. So, I do a cross fade in SR. I used pink noise as an example so I knew I had the same thing on both sides of the cross fade. When the cross fade of 2 seconds is completed, I am still at the mid point of the cross fade. So, I use the go to time feature to move back one second and set a begin selection point. I then move forward two seconds, the entire length of the cross fade with the go to time command and set an end point. Now, I have selection points set at the beginning and the end of the cross fade. I then use dip/rise to increase the volume between the two points so that the end result of the cross fade is totally one same volume. It works like a charm. I have found that depending on the length of the cross fade the mid point db rise in the dip/rise feature may have to be adjusted to get a constant volume, but I can certainly play around until I get it right. It's like having a magic wand and waving it over the file. Nice. Very nice. OK, do you have enough positive strokes yet? Neal