Sean could not care less about Elmore’s perspective.
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On Nov 29, 2021, at 1:23 PM, Jeffrey Cowen ("jeffreyh_1969texas")
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From Elmore’s own perspective, it sounded very much like Sean was plotting
out a work around on losing his ranger status. Actually plotting to kill a
man for being an ass and excessively wealthy. Neither warranting a death.
Elmore might not have known for a fact that Sean wouldn’t kill such a self
entitled man if he felt he could justify it. Purposely trigger an attack so
he could lethally defend himself. Elmore could imagine how easy it would be
to do and could not very well just sit and know of this plotting without
calling him out on it. It’s what preachers do sometimes, the tough sermons
that don’t fill the offering plates with feel good emotions but moral
obligations and standards people need to be reminded of whether they hurt
sometimes or not. An adulterer won’t like a sermon against adultry, and a
spouse plotting to kill their other half won’t like one against murder.
Coveting people’s things and position especially to the point of theft. There
are some on faith that put people far short of the mark.
If one is a church goer and never feels a bit of shame for any of their
pastor’s sermons, maybe they are living really righteous or maybe they are
lying to themselves and not attending an actual church that preaches Bible
but just a social club for people to show up and feel good about themselves
when they leave.
On Monday, November 29, 2021, 11:43:35 AM CST, Tim Farley
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If by vehemence you mean dogged determination to stand by his decision, then
he is guilty. There is no venom in his determination to not prevail upon
Elmore for magical healing. He sees it as honoring Elmore's wishes, perhaps
to the point of making everyone choke on it. He could no more fathom why
Elmore would be upset at fulfilling his role in the party than he would
imagine truculently deciding he'd fired enough arrows for the group, and
they'd have to learn to get by on a ten shot per day limit while in the field.
He has venom for Hutton because he feels regrets for letting Ohlen down.
Regardless of what really happened, Ohlen's death haunts him. That is a
grudge. His response to Elmore isn't a grudge, it's being more stubborn than
anyone else. It was easy to do when Gwyn was in the group, and has become
easier again with Pomeroy being detached and seconded to our little slice of
heaven. There were days when he went around slightly wounded still, relying
on natural healing and time, rather than ask Elmore for help. Elmore made
his position clear, and Sean respected it. Stubbornness, but not a grudge.
Again, perhaps to the point of making him choke on it, but nonetheless, no
grudge, by the classical definition of a grudge. Sean is far more angry
about Elmore intimating he was little more than a cold blooded murderer.
Sean's belief in Elmore's freedom to dictate how his powers be used is
absolute. Sean's belief that Elmore had no right or cause to label him a
murderer is also absolute, and, teasing aside, Sean will not forget that.
There is you grudge.
On Monday, November 29, 2021, 12:29:02 PM EST, Jeffrey Cowen
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, so it’s obviously an out of character observation. The human can hold a
grudge rivaling those of dwarves. Elmore dislikes the Huntress for better
reason but likely doesn’t hold his grudge with such vehemence as those Sean
is capable of hauling around.
On Monday, November 29, 2021, 11:07:18 AM CST, Tim Farley
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Fortunately, Elmore is five days or so walk away right now.
On Monday, November 29, 2021, 12:04:24 PM EST, Jeffrey Cowen
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Yes, for a short lived human, Sean does indeed have a long memory recalling
things Elmore had long forgotten. It certainly makes one’s life seem so much
longer dragging that sort of memory trunk around. Elmore’s own life, Artor
willing will be quite long enough without such baggage making it seem like
he’s packed for a longer trip.
On Monday, November 29, 2021, 10:55:54 AM CST, Tim Farley
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
At this point Sean will not take the ring regardless. If you think him in
jest, recall that he has not and will not accept magical healing from Elmore
from the moment Elmore complained about being a pointy eared walking
band-aid.. For a short lived human, he has a long memory.
As for the balancing of costs and benefits, we are all capable of doing so.
And to think Sean heard the Ode to Joy when he learned of the ring (a la the
bad guys when they opened the vault in Nakatomi Plaza). Now he wants nothing
to do with it.
On Monday, November 29, 2021, 11:48:25 AM EST, Nicole Massey
<nyyki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I get the reason why y'all want the ring on a front line fighter. Remember,
however, that a held Carandolana or otherwise entangled one means no
Entangle, no Heat Metal, no Summon Insects, and most likely no distribution
of Goodberries.
And I don't seem to remember much support for Carandolana from the party.
Holly will have her back, but the rest of the party is off doing their own
things.
Carandolana is *not* a rogue. She's a druid/scout. The only rogue I know of
in first edition is a character class I created as a halfway point between
fighter and thief.
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Elmore is of the opinion that Sean or Ahearn would make best use of the ring
. They both often function as our scouts away from all other support. A Hold
Person or a number of other movement affecting Magic’s or effects could slay
both of them if they are out on their own. Carandolana usually has at least
some support from group or she’s in a form not recognized as a target.
That said, I do think we should be considering Cara for a choice magic in the
near future. Elmore has received two particularly good magic items in his
career here, his mace and his ring of spell turning. His other two rings are
very circumstantial (water) in how often he’d use them. He keeps the ring of
water breathing on as his second normally worn ring. He can swim normally,
just may not be as strong a swimmer as our fighters and he hates seeing the
party sell off a useful magic someone could use which is what he thought the
party was going to do with the ring of swimming unless someone spoke for it.
He does have a magic shield he upgraded from on his last magic shield. Here’s
a thought though, and might run it by Cara and see what she thinks. She can’t
wear metal armor, but I’m wondering if she could wear enchanted dragon scale
mail or if that would even be an interest as she isn’t just a Druid, she’s
also a rogue. Not being made out of metal, I wonder how much that would
affect her stealth. There is an old best of dragon magazine that details
dragon scale mail. The bonus against the dragon’s breath weapon or the type
of damage isn’t great if I recall, but it is something ordinary armor doesn’t
have. She’s had to pay for nearly all her gear out of pocket. If the armor is
something she’d be interested in, it might not hurt if we each chipped in a
bit to help pay for the enchantment so she’s not fully out of pocket to get
something she could use. Steve of course might have arbitration on how much
it costs for the armor to be made then enchanted, as well as effects on
stealth.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 08:24:04 PM CST, Tim Farley
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Sean is patiently awaiting the consensus of the party regarding possession of
the ring of free action. His offer stands (assuming actual possession of the
treasure is not necessary to gain the experience for having recovered it), he
will take no other share but the ring, or will donate the entirety of what he
is awarded to his various charitable interests.
On Sunday, November 28, 2021, 09:17:11 PM EST, James Hurley
<angushurley@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Holly, do you have a magical dagger at all? If not, take the +3. If you have
a lesser one, I could use that.
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I don't have a magical dagger that I see in my character sheets, if Holly has
a lesser one I would be more than happy for her to take the +3 and give me
the lesser one as a back up. If she doesn't then I defer this blade to her
anyway. She should have something for close combat.
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Holly likes blades...
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As much as I would like a ring like that, I think it would be most useful in
your hands, so Sean has my support on the ring.
If no interest in the dagger, I would be most interested in it. But I prefer
coin right now. So if someone wants the dagger, I would yield any claim.
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This may be the happiest day of Sean's life......
He'll need to take his cut in gems or jewels. Or, in the alternative.....
He'll take the ring of free action, Tina's hand in marriage, and everyone's
best wishes. Assuming everyone is OK with that.
On Thursday, November 25, 2021, 04:40:07 AM EST, fritzl65
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On one of the days that Holly has some time off she asks to meet any of the
OGs that can meet her at the tower.
For the low cost of 3000 gold my Uncle Mawby has identified; The dagger is
+3, The sword is -2, he will purchase it for 400 gold.
The ring appears to be free action.
My Uncle Mawby is in a good mood and will give you top value for the gems,
(5050 gold) and 30100 in gold for the jewelry items.
I am thinking thencurswd sword may come in handy of we need a strategic
maneuver or something...
Just my CP worth
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