[sparkscoffee] Re: Vietnam News

  • From: Sblumen123@xxxxxxx
  • To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 14:39:47 -0500 (EST)

JS, DR
Visa Versa
 
Comrade B
 
 
In a message dated 12/6/2013 6:46:17 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
schalestock@xxxxxxxx writes:

DR
 
I suggest you don't confuse Stanley with the immutable laws of  economics. 
You might as well try and explain nuclear physics to an  orangutan.
 
JS


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "D.J.J. Ring,  Jr." <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"  <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Vietnam  News
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:05:17 -0500

It will make absolutely no difference if they get $15.00 an hour.   

There will be even less people employed because of it, McDonald's will  
just cut the workers that aren't worth $15.00 and pay the $15.00 to whoever is  
worth it, or get some machinery to replace the workers.
 
What we need is a DECREASE in minimum wage, that will stimulate the  
economy and result in more money for MORE people.
 
Right now employers are laying off people because of the increased costs  
of Obama care.  The people with the largest increase in medical premiums,  
the young are upset that the burden of Obamacare is going to be on their  
backs.
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/03/22/how-obamacare-dramatica
lly-increases-the-cost-of-insurance-for-young-workers/
 
That  is to say, Obamacare forces insurers to offer more benefits, requires 
them to  spend more money on health expenses, and subsidizes the 
consumption of richer  insurance packages. The laws of economics dictate that 
these 
costs will get  passed down to consumers. It shouldn’t take a microsimulation 
from MIT to know  there’s no such thing as a free lunch—but now you have 
one for good  measure.
 
 
73
 
DR
 



On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:54 PM, <_Sblumen123@aol.com_ 
(mailto:Sblumen123@xxxxxxx) > wrote:


DR
Serious blemishes which occur in captilist and socialist  societies
which eventually get fixed in both. Note these are modern  vehicles
not buffalo transportation. Does not prove that socialisim is a  failure
in fact it is the captilistic desire to improve the bottom line. Are  you
guys aware after all these years of McDonalds, Wendys, KFC, etc
fast foods, low prices, no tips, there is a nation wide union  movement
to get $15 per hour so the workers shouldn't have to get 2nd  jobs and
not apply for tax payer funded food stamps, medical  services, etc.?
From a "Captilist Paradise."
 
Comrade B   
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/1/2013 8:43:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
_n1ea@arrl.net_ (mailto:n1ea@xxxxxxxx)  writes:


 
From Comrade's "Communist Paradise".  

This is how the Commies treat their workers. The "Socialist  Paradise", 
indeed.
 
Without morality, only "what we say is wrong, is wrong".
 
Undoubtedly, the Commies find nothing wrong with this.  I do.  Very wrong.
 
73
DR
 
http://www.thanhniennews.com/index/pages/20130620-fatal-mentality.aspx
 

 
 
 
Reckless  driving turns Vietnam highways into horror show  
Last  updated: Thursday, June 27, 2013 18:50
       

 
Motivated by profit margins, transport  firms and bus and truck drivers 
have an incentive to disregard human life,  which has been blamed for the 
recent spike in fatal accidents on national  highways. 
 


The scene in Quang Nam  Province where a bus plunged off the road, killing 
three and injuring 27  others on June 9. Transport authorities are 
discussing imposing harsher  penalties on those who violate the Traffic Law 
following 
a surge of  highway accidents with multiple fatalities. Photo by Nguyen  Tu 
 

It took Nguyen Van Thang three months to  muster up the “courage” required 
to drive at high speeds on National  Highway 1A carrying passengers on the 
Hanoi-Ho Chi Minh City  route. 
“All long-distance bus drivers  frequently drive at terribly high speeds. 
They rarely drive under 100 kph  even on sections with 60 kph speed limits,” 
said the driver from the  northern province of Ninh Binh. 
He said the bus owner pays him a fixed rate for  each trip and that he 
speeds to beat out competitors for additional  passengers to earn as much as 
possible. 
“Otherwise, I would surely starve,” he  said. 
It is a commonly held view among  drivers, which, together with poor 
infrastructure and the lax surveillance  of relevant authorities, has been 
blamed 
for the recent increase in  serious highway accidents. 
According to the National Traffic  Safety Committee, more than 2,400 
traffic accidents took place nationwide  in May, killing 799 people, injuring 2,
480 others. 
So far this year, there have been more  than 12,050 traffic accidents that 
have killed 4,163 people and injured  12,171 others, amounting to an average 
of 27 people dying per day in  traffic accidents. 
The National Traffic Safety Committee  has warned about the recent increase 
of serious crashes. 
In one recent accident, seven people  died and 22 were injured when a bus’s 
brakes failed, causing it to collide  with a mountainside near the coastal 
resort town of Nha Trang on June 7.  The bus was then struck by falling 
rocks triggered by the  collision. 
On June 9, a bus lost control,  plunging off the road in the central Quang 
Nam Province, killing three and  injuring 27 others. 
On the same day, six people on two  motorbikes were killed when truck 
carrying frozen goods collided with them  in Ba Ria-Vung Tau Province in the 
south. Police said the truck had been  traveling in the wrong lane while 
attempting to pass another  truck. 
Monetary  incentive 
Nguyen Hoang Hiep, deputy chairman of  the National Traffic Safety 
Committee, said many drivers feel tremendous  pressure to drive fast due to 
companies
’ method of payment that allots  them a fixed amount per trip. 
Since that rate tends to be quite low,  drivers gradually form a habit of 
disregarding traffic regulations, which  leads to accidents, he said. 
Khuat Viet Hung, an official with the  Ministry of Transport, said speeding 
is the most common cause of accidents  with more than one fatality. 
To make matters worse, many of the  drivers speeding recklessly up and down 
national highways are  exhausted. 
“Many drivers violate the regulation  that limits their time on the road,” 
Hung said. The law limits drivers to  four continuous hours and a total of 
10 hours per day. “It’s very  dangerous when tired drivers speed to compete 
for passengers.” 
Vu Xuan Tan, a retired bus driver on  the Hanoi-Ninh Binh route, said he 
quit the job several years ago after  causing an accident in which a motorbike 
driver sustained a serious brain  injury. 
“I switched from driving a car for  hire to a bus in order to earn more 
money. However, I had to keep my eyes  continuously peeled to compete for 
passengers and avoid being fined by the  traffic police. 
“All bus drivers must sacrifice their  conscience in order to make ends 
meet,” he said. 
He said most long-distance bus drivers  are paid based on revenues from 
ticket sale. The more passengers they get,  the more money they earn. 
Many truck drivers also admitted to  speeding frequently because they are 
paid per trip. 
Nong Van Tin, a truck driver in Bac  Kan Province, admitted that he often 
drives at high speeds, even on curvy  mountain roads. 
“Most container truck drivers often  violate speed limits whenever there 
are no traffic police on the road.  They even often inform other drivers about 
the presence of police  checkpoints,” he said. 
‘Black  spots’ 
Poor infrastructure has also been  blamed for fatal traffic accidents 
nationwide. 
Many dangerous road sections have been  labeled by transport authorities as 
“black spots” or “potential  spots.” 
The transport ministry defines black  spots as sections of road where at 
least two fatal accidents occur per  year. Potential spots are those which 
have been the site of at least five  non-fatal accidents. 
According to the Vietnam Road  Administration, the country’s roads had 64 
black spots and 251 potential  spots as of the end of last year. 
Nguyen Van Quyen, deputy director of  the Vietnam Road Administration, said 
it has been difficult to improve  traffic safety at these places despite 
his agency having had VND4 trillion  (US$190 million) earmarked for this 
purpose. 
“Only VND1.2 trillion has been  disbursed. But even the whole amount is far 
from enough to repair all  these road sections.” 
Inadequate punishment vs.  ineffective enforcement 
Hiep, the deputy chairman of the  National Traffic Safety Committee, said 
besides the authorities improving  infrastructure, drivers and their 
companies must receive harsher  punishments for drivers’ violations of the 
Traffic 
Law. 
He said relevant authorities will  begin issuing fines for drivers and 
companies that do not install black  boxes (like those on airplanes, which 
record a vehicle’s activity) in  buses and trucks starting in July. 
“There should [also] be stricter  punishments such as suspending drivers 
with repeated violations. Any  company with several violating drivers should 
have its business license  revoked,” he said. 
At a recent teleconference on traffic  safety, Deputy Minister of Public 
Security Pham Quy Ngo proposed  suspending driver’s licenses indefinitely for 
drivers who cause serious  accidents. 
Hiep said his agency proposed the  measure, but it was rejected because it 
contradicted the Labor  Code. 
He said it would take several more  years to modify relevant laws before 
the measure could be approved.  Currently, two years is the maximum amount of 
time driver’s licenses may  be suspended. 
He proposed imprisoning traffic law  violators, especially drunk drivers 
who have caused accidents. 
Nguyen Manh Hung, former chairman of  the Vietnam Automobile Transport 
Association, said the country needs  policies that improve the safety awareness 
of bus and truck  drivers. 
“Many companies ignore the Traffic Law  and require their drivers to drive 
for 18-20 hours continuously, which can  lead to serious accidents. The 
government should handle this  problem.” 
According to Hung, if properly  enforced, current measures are sufficient 
to deter violations. 
“The problem is that relevant  authorities do not enforce them properly or 
transparently and  consequently, disrespecting the law becomes habitual 
among  drivers.” 
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By  Mai Ha - Minh Sang, Thanh Nien News (The story can be found in the June 
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