RR You read all this. I heard on the news that Russia advised Syria tp allow the UN peacekeepers to inspect for chemical weapon use. Comrade B In a message dated 8/23/2013 5:12:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx writes: "What’s equally as intriguing as boots on the ground inside of the Syrian border is the fact that these troops and intelligence officers reportedly made their way into the country on August 17th, fully four days before reports and images surfaced showing hundreds of men, women and children killed by a chemical weapons attack allegedly at the hands of Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. The purported attack, which _some experts argue was a set-up_ (http://www.infowars.com/expert-chemical-weapons-victim-footage-appears-set-up/) , left even the pacifist government of France _calling for military intervention_ (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23795088) . Furthermore, should UN investigators, who conveniently happen to be in-country investigating possible chemical weapons stockpiles, confirm that the attack did take place, then we can expect armed military confrontation in the middle east once again. Of interest is also the fact the NASDAQ stock market exchange was halted today due to what NASDAQ officials call a technical glitch. Within hours of the ‘glitch’ cyber security experts suggested that this was no accident, but rather, a _hack attack _ (http://www.usatoday.com/story/cybertruth/2013/08/22/nasdaq-outage-aligns-with--denial-of-service-attacks/2687323/) originating from the “hacking collective” known as the Cyber Fighters of Izz ad-Din al-Qassam, an Iranian backed organization. Earlier this week President Obama met with the heads of the Federal Reserve, the SEC, the FDIC and several other agencies responsible for monitoring and implementing U.S. financial, economic and monetary policy, indicating that there could be a _serious crisis unfolding behind the scenes_ (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/presidential-meeting-signals-catastrophic-event- there-is-a-crisis-unfolding-somewhere-in-the-background_08212013) of our financial system. This comes on the heels of the Federal Reserve claiming that they would begin to “taper” the stimulus, a move that would likely send massive shock waves through domestic and global stock markets. This is all speculation, of course, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that the US financial system is potentially on the brink of a massive re-collapse, while the Obama administration is actively engaging Syria in what we can only conclude will lead to a broader conflict in the middle east. Throughout history governments have deflected blame for economic disasters by turning their efforts to a far off enemy and going to war. It’s certainly _no accident_ (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/it-wont-be-an-accident-the-build-up-to-world-war-iii_10082011) and it’s a forecast that _contrarian observers have made_ (http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/either-through-war-or-financial-collapse-it-will-be-very-painful_07292013) repeatedly as the global economic crisis deepened. Is this what we’re seeing play out right now? If so, then the implications are far reaching, because anyone who thinks this is going to be another Iraq are kidding themselves. This time, the Russians and the Chinese have a stake in the game, and they too have been positioning pieces on the Grand Chessboard. Not only have the Russians already advised western nations that the Syrians will be _armed with weapons never before seen_ (https://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/russiasyria-will-be-armed-with-weapons-that-have-never-been-seen-before-in-the-middle-east_06212013) in the middle east, but they have warned that any military confrontation in the region could potentially _go nuclear_ (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/17/us-g8-russia-idUSBRE84G18M20120517) . The question then becomes: who were the Russians talking about? Syria doesn’t have nuclear weapons. Neither does Iran (at least not for a few more months if Israeli intelligence reports are to be believed). But the United States, Israel, Russia and China do have nukes. Thus, one can only conclude that the Russians were talking about a nuclear engagement between them… and us." -RR -----Original Message----- From: Dry Turtles <dryturtles@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Aug 23, 2013 2:44 PM To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: The opening round of WW III? I ran a search and found the French newspaper the 1st link referred to but didn't give the name. It is Le Figaro and they say this: (It's a long ways from WW3) From Le Figaro, google translated: According to our information, the regime's opponents, supervised by Jordanian, Israeli and American commandos moving towards Damascus since mid-August. This attack could explain the possible use of the Syrian president to chemical weapons. According to information obtained by Le Figaro , the first trained in guerrilla warfare by the Americans in Jordan Syrian troops reportedly entered into action since mid-August in southern Syria, in the region of Deraa. A first group of 300 men, probably supported by Israeli and Jordanian commandos, as well as men of the CIA, had crossed the border on August 17. A second would have joined the 19. According to military sources, the Americans, who do not want to put troops on the Syrian soil or arming rebels in part controlled by radical Islamists form quietly for several months in a training camp set up at the border Jordanian- Syrian fighters ASL, the Free Syrian Army, handpicked. Scotty On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Ron Ristad <_ristad@sprynet.com_ (mailto:ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: Scotty, The first link talks about U.S., Israeli, Russian and Iranian troops entering Syria. The war in Syria and cyber attacks in the U.S. are related events, which is why I included the second link. -RR -----Original Message----- From: Dry Turtles Sent: Aug 23, 2013 1:41 PM To: _sparkscoffee@freelists.org_ (mailto:sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: The opening round of WW III? Ron Ristad, Do you even remember what you wrote? "U.S. and Israel forces have entered into Syria. Russian forces have also entered into Syria." This is NOT cyber warfare. Get it straight or don't waste my time with BS. Scotty On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Ron Ristad <_ristad@sprynet.com_ (mailto:ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: Scotty, Obviously you didn't watch/listen to the videos, which cover a variety of news topics. Let me guess. You get all your news from the television set. There are hundred's of Internet news sources but these are two of my favorites because they do news analysis. If you had actually listened to the second link you would have discovered that the NASDAQ outage likely has some connection to what is going on in Syria. In recent days the NY Times, Am_azon.com_ (http://azon.com/) and a bunch of other big Internet websites have gone down as well, with no explanation given. At the same time the U.S. Government has been making a lot of noise about cyber warfare and how cyber attacks represent an act of war, not to mention the CISPA bill that is sitting in the Senate right now waiting for some event so that it can be pushed through as an emergency measure, along with the gun control bill and the U.N. Arms Treaty. -RR -----Original Message----- From: Dry Turtles Sent: Aug 23, 2013 12:18 PM To: _sparkscoffee@freelists.org_ (mailto:sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx) Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: The opening round of WW III? I guess this Ristad guy thinks it is April 1st. 1st link is some unknown wannabe newsman 2nd link is about the NASDAQ outage yesterday Scotty On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Ron Ristad <_ristad@sprynet.com_ (mailto:ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx) > wrote: U.S. and Israel forces have entered into Syria. Russian forces have also entered into Syria. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD2Ly-RdQz4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhbjkalMqUM -RR Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. - Voltaire </dryturtles@xxxxxxxxx>