Stan,
You put Sparkscoffee as the visible address, when people REPLY TO ALL, I
get replies going to the list which bounce.
You still haven't agreed to NOT send messages to sparkscoffee that have CC
or BCC or other TO addresses. That's what is causing the problem.
What you are doing is causing the problem.
You still won't agree to stop doing what is causing the problem, nor are
you agreeing to be a moderator so YOU can clean up the mess YOU cause by
what you are doing.
Come on, you still fail to understand? And even if you don't understand,
you won't comply with my request to NOT send messages to the list that have
as adressees who are non list members!
Stan, there is a word for that type of behavior.
73
DR
On Jan 14, 2018 10:31 PM, "using" <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear David
Read it, You yourself just below wrote that BCC is not visible to anyone
which is exactly my point
that everyone is protected including sparkscoffee. About Chucksright I
don't remember it, it is
some sort of fluke and the only fluke you are mentioning and most likely
won't happen again in
the short life I still have.
Stan the frustrated man.
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: using <Sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Jan 14, 2018 11:57 am
Subject: Re: Stan the Man
CC is a carbon copy.
BCC is a blind carbon copy.
The TO: addresses and the CC: addresses are both visable, while the BCC
addresses are not visible to anyone even a mail server as each BCC
addressee is sent the copy individually by the sending (AOL in your case)
mail server.
If you send a message TO sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx and someone (usually
Chucksright) responds using REPLY TO ALL, his response goes to 1) You and
to ALL other TO: addresses and all CC: addresses - which means it goes to
Sparkscoffee and even after I asked you to stop doing that, you started up
with free speech.
Never mind free speech, how about NOT making work for me?
You were being unreasonable, and so you were taken off the list.
No more problems handling the bouncing mails that were caused by the
responses to your messages addressed to others not on the list but which
included the list address.
You ignore my suggestion to send two messages, instead you just give me
grief. Separate message one to the list and one to BCC list - or anyone
else - would have solved the problem.
But you insisted on continuing what you were doing.
So you are gone because of that.
Here's one example of a message that your actually asking Chuck why he
didn't respond to Sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
Unbelievable - Chuck isn't a member of the list, and your asking him why
he didn't respond through the list.
THINK THINK. This what got you deleted from the list.
[sparkscoffee] Re: Our latest editorial, "Trickle Up Poverty"
- *From*: "" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> (Redacted sender
"sblumen123" for DMARC)
- *To*: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- *Date*: Mon, 4 Sep 2017 12:13:24 -0400
Chuck
How come you didn't send this to Sparkscoffee?
The link is too long and too repetitive of the views of the very, 1% rich.
If President Ronald Reagan and his supporters was so successful then
how do you explain how they lost to the Marxist Democrats? Who owns the
mass media, the industries and the best that money could buy law makers?
Money talks, bull shit walks, who has the money. the poor
or the rich? Think,
think, think like me.
Stan the Marxist Socialist
73
David
On Sun, Jan 14, 2018 at 9:30 AM, using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
David Dear
What is the difference between CC and BCC?
Frustrated
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Jan 14, 2018 5:36 am
Subject: Re: Stan the Man
No, you were sending to SparksCoffee as a visable address because
otgerwise you message would be rejected by the list.
When they reply to ALL, a message goes direct to you AND to the list.
Then I would get messages to moderate the message because the sender would
not be a member of the list, so I would have to allow the message to be
sent. The moderation process is by email commands and is very complicated,
and if you make an error you have to do it all over again.
After doing this once too many times, I told you to stop sending these
messages by BCC and you refused, so I deleted you from the list.
Do you get it now?
David
On Jan 14, 2018 4:50 AM, "using" <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
David
Yee gads, the only address they see and you see is the sender's address,
MINE NO OTHERS.
I have been doing this for months, did you get any replies??? Wake up out
of dream land.
Frustrated
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sun, Jan 14, 2018 2:15 am
Subject: Re: Stan the Man
Stan,
The problem is whwn people on the BCC list reply, the replies go to the
visable addressees, the SPARKS COFFEE list, is visable, people reply to the
list and I have messages to moderate as they are not subscribed.
THINK, THINK.
You still don't get it do you?
Rgds,
DR
On Jan 14, 2018 1:58 AM, "using" <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
My dear, dear David
Think, think, think again. When anything is sent BCC, no one sees if it
is sent on a list, in fact do you see who else
got the msg you are looking at? Lets what the other 5 fellers think? They
got the same msg you are looking at.
Stan still the man
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>; Richard Freedland <gadaoman2@xxxxxxxxx>;
schalestock <schalestock@xxxxxxxx>; ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>; J. J.
Miller <seaspark@xxxxxxx>; LEE A STALEY, NI7I <pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Jan 13, 2018 11:56 pm
Subject: Re: Stan the Man
Stanley,
Again, if you don't agree to send ONLY to ARA NET with no BCC's or CC's
you won't be allowed to rejoin.
When you send like that, it causes me problems when I get replies from
people who don't subscribe to the ARA NET mail list (sparks coffee).
You seem to be too old to understand this, and unwilling to do the work
of just copying the text of a message and sending a second message. You
complain that this is more work for you.
It is more work for you, but your NOT doing it is much, much more work
for me - and I should not be at your beck and call to be a clean up
slave for the mess your sending BCC messages to a closed mailing list
causes for the moderator.
I've offered you the job of list moderator but you don't want the job.
I have no problem with your being a moderator and cleaning up after
yourself, you will find out quickly that the effort of sending a second
message is much easier than cleaning up the mess when someone replies to
your message and replies to the visible address - which is the ARA NET /
Sparks Coffee address.
Also it is not what they call Netiquite as it's rude for you to make such
work for the moderator (me).
73
DR
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:43 PM, using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
My dear David Ring and all those on the ARA Net.
Kindly let me know if you agree with David or me on the following topic.
Think, think, think, I have been sending to everybody on the ARA Net and
to my BCC list with
one msg and there is no complaint by you or anyone else. In addition I
have receive 2 emails
from the ARA Net, John Schalestock and Richard and you could have done the
same without
phoning. The only thing missing is that I don't see what is posted on the
ARA Net and I can
continue living with that till the day I die. There is no need and it is
not necessary for me to
send directly to the Net since everyone on the net sees what I post. Also
everyone has an
option to open or not open what is posted or even put a block on each
other. If you don't
want me to see what is posted on the net then go tell the others why.
There is no way I am
going to send the same msg twice when it is unnecessary. Everyone on the
Net is going to
see this exchange of messages.
Stan the Man
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Jan 13, 2018 6:35 pm
Subject: Re: Stan the Man
The problem is and I am repeating myself for the umpteenth time:
DO NOT SEND ANY (NOT EVEN ONE) MESSAGE THROUGH THE SPARKSCOFFEE LIST THAT
HAS A BLIND CARBON COPY.
I will not repeat the reasons, I have told you in the past so many
times, I am embarassed that you don't understand.
If you want to send a message to the group, send it - NO copies to
anyone. No CC no BCC. ONLY to the group.
Then if you want to send the message you just sent to others, copy that
message, go into your SENT folder and open the message, press CTRL-A to
select ALL, then press CTRL-C to copy. Close the message.
Go to COMPOSE or "New Message" or whatever your mail program or browser
calls it, and open a NEW message.
Go into the text area and use CTRL-V for paste. And the message will be
pasted into the text portion.
Then go to Addresses and send to anyone (except the ARA COFFEE list) you
want. I don't care about that.
But it's going to take you the time to send TWO messages.
There's a faster way, go to SENT mail and use "Forward" message and
forward it to anyone (except ARA Coffee List).
I am not going to repeat the reasons why your doing this got you into
trouble and caused me a lot of work.
Either you send JUST to the NET or you will not be allowed to send at
all.
The way you are doing it, it's easier for you but you cause a LOT of
extra work for me with each message you send. You are being very
inconsiderate by doing this and this is why I kicked you off.
Either you send TWO separate messages or you are not allowed back.
73
David Ring
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 5:25 PM, using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
David
I have a rather large BCC list and I don't like to send the same msg twice
so when I bunched
up your 6 member list to one group nbr and at the same time I send to my
BCC list which is
also grouped up to one different nbr, everyone gets it with one shot, so
what is the problem?
Stan
bcc
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Cc: Richard Freedland <gadaoman2@xxxxxxxxx>; LEE A STALEY, NI7I <
pixiehat@xxxxxxxxxxx>; ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>; schalestock <
schalestock@xxxxxxxx>; J. J. Miller <seaspark@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Jan 13, 2018 12:09 pm
Subject: Re: Stan the Man
Stan,
Stan, after I talked to you for a while, it was obvious at the wonderful
age of 92 that you were hearing me with great difficulty, even though you
complimented my voice as being "remarkably powerful" and hopefully pleasent
to listen to.
After trying to say "Goodbye" and terminate the call - we as I said having
great difficulties at communicating because of your hearing, I tried at
least three times probably more to tell you I had to go. I wasn't sure at
the end of my last attempt that you had understood me, but I thought you'd
recognize that I probably was saying "Goodbye" because the line went dead.
As for rejoining the "Net", as always you are welcome: Just one condition
- do NOT send along with your posts to the "NET" any BCC messages. Most
email servers reject ANY message that does this and gives the error
message to any such post. Unfortunately, the NET server does not. This
causes ME lots of problems which I have to fix.
IF you wish to send a message you have sent to the ARA NET, send the
message to the NET, and AFTER that, take the sent message and send it to
as many people you wish. That doesn't concern me as it has nothing to do
with the NET or me.
Only if you agree NEVER to send to the NET and include BCC addresses will
I let you back in.
That's the what I told you before, and it remains the same.
Upon your agreement, I will add you back.
Regards,
David
On Sat, Jan 13, 2018 at 11:21 AM, using <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Dear D.J.J. Ring, Jr.
I was surprised and thank you for your phone call to me and I am the
someone who
sent you and a whole bunch of others copies of the letter President Trump sent
me
along with a copy of the letter I sent to John McCane CCing it to the
President and
others. You asked how I contacted the President when I thought I had
already told
everyone and then told me why and then said good by and hung up?
It's a waste of time for both of us to talk about socialism and communism
as both of
us have made up our minds on the subject.
This is the first time I can remember you saying that your 3 year old
daughter was raped
by the son of a policeman years ago is shocking to say the least. How
is she doing now?
Did she work, get married, give you grandchildren, etc. I am interested
since you mentioned it?
You are the one who took me out of the ARA Net and I have been sending to
the Net but I don't
see what the Net is posting? How about fixing this problem?
Stan the odd man out
-----Original Message-----
From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx>
To: Sblumen123 <Sblumen123@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, Jan 11, 2018 5:03 pm
Subject: Stan the Man
Hello Stan,
Someone told me that you got a response from President Trump about
Puerto Rico and the Jones Act. We strongly agree on this - and I
don't flinch at telling people your a solid union man and a patriot -
we don't have disagreements on this - we only have a disagreement on
the way to achieve better life for all of us. I see the problems with
communism, I do believe people should share, and I do believe people
are greedy and selfish.
I have studied Communism and I see the effects of selfishness and
greed and control. Mostly control and loss of freedom.
I also have studied Capitalism and know the problems it has, but I
believe the benefits - "Capitalism is the best source of individual
economic prosperity" outweigh the problems. Some if not most
Republicans unfortunately embody the problems - but not all of them.
The ones who want minimum government and maximum individual freedom
for all are the ones I agree with.
Stan, when you wrote to your Congressmen and Senators about the Jones
Act, you Carbon Copied (CC) the President. How did you send the
letter? Did you email or what?
I have reported a crime in the court system, I reported it to all the
appropriate channels, the Chief Justice of the Trial Court, then to
the police.
Years ago a son of a police officer raped my three year old daughter,
the courts and police covered it up.
The FBI has as it's #1 job - government corruption - but I've gone
all the way up to the FBI Internal Affairs then to the Department of
Justice Inspector General - and nothing was done, they just spun it
around and passed it back to Boston FBI who did nothing.
Maybe if I can email or write a letter there's a billion to one chance
that Trump will see it.
It's basically my only hope. My Senators are both Democrats and also
my Rep. They will do nothing.
Regards,
David
