[sparkscoffee] Re: Netanyahu Pulls Down The Mas k——Belligerence An d Rac ism Underneath

  • From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx" <schalestock@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 15:30:03 GMT

RR Your logic is a little confusing. I agree we are looking at a replay of the 
1930s. And I'm sure you have read Mein Kampf in which Hitler not only laid out 
his plans but eventually implemented them. That being the case, how can you 
reconcile your statement that Iran has a  "right" to own a nuclear weapon on 
one hand and their stated intention to nuke Isreal once they get it?  Don't you 
believe them? I sure as hell do. JS

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: FreeARA <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Netanyahu Pulls Down The Mas 
k&#151;&#151;Belligerence And Rac ism Underneath
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 11:15:13 -0400 (EDT)


Netanyahu has been claiming that Iran has been building a nuclear weapon that 
will ready within 6 months for the past 25 years! And some people still take 
him seriously!

Even if Iran were building a nuclear bomb it is not a crime. They are a member 
of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and permitted to do so under 
International Law. Israel on the other hand is not a member of the treaty and 
they have the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in the Middle East. Simply 
owning a nuclear weapon is no different than buying a gun for protection 
against criminals who carry guns.

The danger is that Iran is an ally of both Russia and China.

Everything that is taking place today is like a rerun of the 1930's. It's 
fascinating to observe the height of human stupidity firsthand. - At least when 
you're not sitting in the kill zone.

-RR

-----Original Message----- 
From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx" <schalestock@xxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Mar 20, 2015 8:19 AM 
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Netanyahu Pulls Down The Mas 
k&mdash;&mdash;Belligerence And Rac ism Underneath 

RR You may be right about WW3. If the Isrealis go terminal on the Iranian nuke 
structures, you know there won't be any half way measures. The calculus then 
changes to just how strong Iran feels about it - up to and including another 
war. The Israelis have been fortunate in the past but, as you probably know, 
Goda Meir was asked for nuclear release during the Yom Kipper War when it 
looked like Isreal was going to be overrun. I don't doubt for a  minute that 
the Isrealis won't go nuclear if they feel their survial is threatened, or if 
Iran tries to nuke them. Which, of course will be the beginning of Armageddon. 
JS

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: [sparkscoffee] Re: Netanyahu Pulls Down The 
Mask&mdash;&mdash;Belligerence And Rac ism Underneath
Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 08:02:33 -0600 (GMT-06:00)

 
JS,
The significance is that he has now made racism and unprovoked attacks against 
other countries the official state policy of Israel, not much different than 
Hitler prior to the start of WWII. Hitler condoned all of his actions too, and 
the majority of the German people supported him, as did the League of Nations 
even after he invaded Poland to protect Germany from the Russians who had 
massed troupes on the border.

This scenario has played out over and over again throughout history and it 
always ends the same way.

Netanyahu will no doubt go down as the evil person who started WWIII just as 
Hitler has been blamed by many as the evil person who started WWII.

-RR

-----Original Message----- 
From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx" <schalestock@xxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Mar 20, 2015 4:39 AM 
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Netanyahu Pulls Down The 
Mask&mdash;&mdash;Belligerence And Rac ism Underneath 

RR I don't see any mention of the billions and billons of dollars donated to 
the Palestinian people and stolen by Arafat and his sucessors.  IE A 
significant part of the problem rests wih the Palestinians themselves, if you 
want to be fair and balanced about it. JS
---------- Original Message ----------
From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Netanyahu Pulls Down The Mask&mdash;&mdash;Belligerence 
And Racism Underneath 
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2015 18:53:54 -0600 (GMT-06:00)

 
By Robert Parry at Consortium News
Desperate to win reelection, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stripped 
off Israel&rsquo;s mask and exposed the ugliness that has deformed his country 
over the past several decades. He abandoned the subterfuge of a two-state 
solution, exposed the crass racism that underlies Israeli politics, and 
revealed Israel&rsquo;s blatant control of the U.S. Congress.
For years, these realities were known to many Americans, but &ndash; if they 
spoke up &ndash; they were condemned as anti-Semites, so most stayed silent to 
protect their careers and reputations. But &ndash; given Netanyahu&rsquo;s 
brazen admissions &ndash; the American people may have little choice but to 
finally take notice of this troubling reality and demand a change in U.S. 
policy.
The truth is that the two-state solution has been a fiction for at least the 
past two decades, dying in 1995 with the assassination of Prime Minister 
Yitzhak Rabin. But the two-state illusion still served important political 
purposes both for Israelis, who would pay it lip service while continuing their 
steady encroachment on Palestinian lands, and for U.S. politicians who could 
point to the mirage as an excuse not to pressure Israel too hard on its human 
rights violations.
Yet, whenever any U.S. official actually tried to reach that shimmering oasis 
of a two-state solution, it would recede into the distance. Then, the Israelis 
would rely on their friends and allies in the news media and politics to blame 
the Palestinians. Now, however, the illusion of Israel seeking such an outcome 
in good faith has been lost in Netanyahu&rsquo;s anything-goes determination to 
keep his office &ndash; a case of political expediency trumping strategic 
expediency.
In the closing days of the campaign, Netanyahu promised that as long as he was 
prime minister he would block a Palestinian state and would continue building 
Jewish settlements on what international law recognizes as Palestinian land.
To further rally his right-wing Jewish base, Netanyahu warned that &ldquo;Arab 
voters are streaming in huge quantities to the polling stations&rdquo; &ndash; 
an alarm similar to racist politicians in the United States motivating the 
white vote with claims about loads of blacks being bused to the polls. With his 
crude appeal, Netanyahu undermined the longstanding denial that Zionism is a 
form of racism.
Even before Netanyahu&rsquo;s last-minute histrionics, he had exploited his 
relationship with the United States to burnish his reputation as a world leader 
by appearing for a record-tying third time as a foreign leader addressing a 
joint session of the U.S. Congress. (Only Great Britain&rsquo;s Winston 
Churchill had appeared three times before Congress.)
Acting as almost a stand-in for the President of the United States, Netanyahu 
gave what amounted to a faux State of the Union address filled with scary tales 
about Iran and with dire warnings against international negotiations seeking to 
ensure that Iran&rsquo;s nuclear program remains peaceful.
Though some Democrats boycotted the speech because it represented an 
unprecedented insult to an American president, the Republican majority and many 
Democrats gave Netanyahu more than 40 ovations as they cheered his vitriolic 
attacks on Iran and his denunciations of the negotiations supported by 
President Barack Obama. [See Consortiumnews.com&rsquo;s &ldquo;Congress Cheers 
Netanyahu&rsquo;s Hatred of Iran.&rdquo;]
Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran
Then, last weekend, a prominent neoconservative Joshua Muravchik admitted that 
the almost certain outcome of Netanyahu&rsquo;s scuttling of the negotiations 
would be to bomb Iran. Muravchik laid out this scenario in a Washington Post 
article headlined &ldquo;War is the only way to stop Iran&rdquo; in print 
editions and &ldquo;War with Iran is probably our best option&rdquo; online.
&ldquo;What if force is the only way to block Iran from gaining nuclear 
weapons? That, in fact, is probably the reality,&rdquo; Muravchik wrote. 
&ldquo;Sanctions may have induced Iran to enter negotiations, but they have not 
persuaded it to abandon its quest for nuclear weapons. Nor would the stiffer 
sanctions that Netanyahu advocates bring a different result. &hellip;
&ldquo;Does this mean that our only option is war? Yes, although an air 
campaign targeting Iran&rsquo;s nuclear infrastructure would entail less need 
for boots on the ground than the war Obama is waging against the Islamic State, 
which poses far smaller a threat than Iran does. &hellip; Wouldn&rsquo;t 
destroying much of Iran&rsquo;s nuclear infrastructure merely delay its 
progress? Perhaps, but we can strike as often as necessary.&rdquo;
In other words, if Netanyahu keeps pulling the strings of the U.S. government, 
an open-ended war on Iran is the almost certain result. But Netanyahu, for 
short-term political gain, risked Israel&rsquo;s longstanding support from the 
American people by spotlighting his role as the marionette of the U.S. 
Congress. [See Consortiumnews.com&rsquo;s &ldquo;A Neocon Admits the Plan to 
Bomb Iran.&ldquo;]
Netanyahu&rsquo;s reelection victory has clarified the situation for the 
American people in another way. We now know there will be no two-state solution 
with the Palestinians as Israel cements its status as an apartheid state 
&ndash; and all the cries of &ldquo;anti-Semitism&rdquo; are not likely to 
silence people taking notice of this reality since the Israeli Prime Minister 
himself has taken the sting out of the slur.
The American people now have little choice but to recognize that Israel intends 
to maintain and expand its &ldquo;Jewish state&rdquo; pushing the Palestinians 
into isolated enclaves. For nearly a half century, Israel has exercised 
effective control over these indigenous people in the West Bank and Gaza 
(totaling more than 4 million people), but there was always the hope of a 
Palestinian state.
Now, by jettisoning the prospect of a &ldquo;two-state solution,&rdquo; 
Netanyahu will institutionalize what had long been the unacknowledged fate of 
the Palestinians. In essence, Netanyahu is opting for a one-state solution, 
just with most Palestinians confined to a state-less netherworld where they 
will be denied political rights, left to wither and die.
And, whenever some Palestinians act up, Israel will wage war against them, 
killing thousands at a time and destroying their homes and infrastructure, what 
Israelis call &ldquo;mowing the grass.&rdquo;
With the facades gone, Americans must decide if they will embrace this 
apartheid system or not. Many Christian Zionists, who are a powerful force 
inside the Republican Party, are okay with Israel&rsquo;s brutal repression 
because they see the Jews taking this land as a step toward fulfilling a 
biblical prophecy so Jesus can return to earth as its king.
But rational Americans are confronted with a difficult moral choice. Either 
continue supporting Netanyahu in brutalizing the Palestinians and in his 
looming war against Iran (using the U.S. military to carry it out) or insist 
that the U.S. government reassess its relationship with Israel.
The developments of March 2015 &ndash; from Netanyahu&rsquo;s proconsul-style 
speech before the U.S. Congress to the racist incitements of his victorious 
campaign &ndash; have forced thoughtful Americans to abandon their longstanding 
excuses for Israeli behavior.
From now on, there&rsquo;s no pretending that &ldquo;standing with 
Israel&rdquo; doesn&rsquo;t mean kneeling in an obsequious acceptance of 
Netanyahu&rsquo;s cruelty toward the Palestinians and cooperation in an illegal 
and aggressive war against Iran.
 
-RR


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