[sparkscoffee] Re: Keystone Pipeline
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R George
No need to comment on this one, already did on a previous similer one.
In other words, I told you so. In case you forgot, profitisim before
patriotisim.
Comrade B
-----Original Message-----
From: R George <xgeorge@xxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thu, May 8, 2014 4:59 pm
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Keystone Pipeline
From pro-business Forbes:
"Just Greed and Politics. Pipeline defects have been identified along a
60-mile stretch of the southern segment of the
Keystone XL pipeline, north of the Sabine River in Texas (Winnsboro,
Texas). ?Sections of pipe have dents, faulty welds,
and pin-holes in some sections enough to see daylight through."
"The installers have been digging up parts of the new southern segment
of the Keystone pipeline that only recently have
been installed. It seems that the existing leg of the Keystone has
spilled more oil in its first year than any other first-year
pipeline in U.S. history."
"All in all, the cost/benefit is not in America’s favor."
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2013/08/25/what-is-wrong-with-the-keystone-xl-pipeline/
On 5/8/2014 1:52 PM, R George wrote:
Here are six facts about the proposed Keystone XL deal that
make clear why the pipeline was a bad deal for America and why it
deserved to be rejected:
1. Keystone XL Would Not Reduce Foreign Oil Dependency
The oil to be sent through Keystone XL pipeline was never destined
for US markets. In its own presentation to investors about the proposed
pipeline extension, TransCanada (the company behind Keystone XL) boasted
that most if not all of the extracted and refined oil would be exported
--- sold in oversees markets where oil fetches a higher price (and thus
turns a higher profit for the company).
2. Keystone XL Would Have Increased Domestic Oil Prices
Currently, Canadian oil reserves stored in the Midwest help suppress
gas prices in the United States, particularly for farmers in our nation’s
heartland.
In its permit application for the pipeline, TransCanada noted that
the Keystone XL pipeline would allow the company to drain these reserves
and export that fuel as well. According to TransCanada’s own statements,
this would raise gas prices in the United States, especially in the
Midwest.
3. Keystone XL Overstated Number of Jobs to be Created
In 2008, TransCanada’s original permit application to the State
Department said the Keystone XL pipeline would create “a peak workforce of
approximately 3,500 to 4,200 construction personnel” in temporary jobs
building the pipeline.
By 2011, now facing growing opposition to the pipeline, TransCanada
had inflated these numbers (using undisclosed formulas) to 20,000.
Supporters of the proposal, backed by big oil, have since trumpeted these
trumped up numbers.
4. Current Keystone Pipeline Leaked 12 Times in Last Year
The pipeline that the Obama administration has rejected the permit
for would be an extension of a pipeline that has already leaked -- not
just once, but 12 times in the last year.
While TransCanada tried to dismiss these leaks as “minor” averaging
“just five to 10 gallons of oil” each, the leak on May 7, 2011 near
Millner, N.D., spilled about 21,000 gallons of oil in total.
5. The Environmental Concerns About Oil Leaks Are Justified
Nebraska’s Republican Governor Dave Heineman strongly opposed the
Keystone XL project because the pipeline would run through a massive and
vital aquifer in his state the supplies clean drinking water to over 2
million Americans plus water that fuels the region’s agriculture industry.
Building the pipeline might have created a few thousand temporary
jobs but even a minor oil spill in or near the aquifer would have
jeopardized hundreds of thousands of jobs, not to mention the health and
safety of millions.
Meanwhile, in Michigan where a similar tar sands pipeline spilled
over 840,000 gallons of crude oil into the Kalamazoo River in 2010,
residents are still complaining of headaches, dizziness and nausea while
studies continue to look at the long-term effects of just being near such
an oil spill when it happens.
6. Mining Tar Sands Would Worsen Global Warming
Assuming you believe, like the vast majority of the world’s
scientists, that climate change is both real and of concern, the Canadian
tar sands are the second largest carbon reserve in the world.
Mining these reserves would release all of that carbon into the
atmosphere, to detrimental effect on our environment. Sure, Canada might
go ahead and mine the tar sands anyway, but the United States doesn’t have
to help pollute the planet and our own states in the process.
No matter how you look at it, the Keystone XL proposal was a slimy,
scam of a deal. America is better than that.
We can create good-paying jobs that build our families and our
economy for the future without hurting our environment today.
We can invest in innovative energy technology that not only reduces
our dependence on dirty fuel but also puts us in the lead in critical,
emerging markets.
We can prioritize good jobs and a competitive economy of the future,
with all the upsides of American energy production and innovation and far,
far fewer of the downsides that Keystone carried.
Let’s focus on more of those deals going forward.
Sally Kohn is a Fox News Contributor and grassroots strategist. You
can find her online at http://sallykohn.com.
On 5/8/2014 1:23 PM, Ron Ristad wrote:
Kelly,
The Keystone pipeline that Obama is blocking would
transport oil from the Canadian Oil Sands to the U.S..
The reason why it is being blocked is because Warren Buffet,
one of Obama's biggest contributors, owns the rail cars that are
currently being used to transport this oil to the U.S. at a
considerably higher cost the pipeline would be. The
"environmentalists" that are supposedly blocking it claim
that it could harm the environment when the fact is that
there are already millions of miles of oil pipelines in the U.S. and
none that have caused any environmental damage. At the same time
there have been catastrophic rail car accidents that have caused considerable
damage to both people and the environment.
The part of the southern part of the Keystone
pipeline that delivers oil to the Gulf
was completed last year and began shipping oil on
Jan 21st. Obama had no issues with
that.
-RR
-----Original Message-----
From: Kelly
Sent: May 8, 2014 2:02 PM
To: "sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: How much does it cost to buy
the U.S. Senate?
I think it's funny how the pipeline issue is being cast as
an environmental issue. This completely masks the real
economic issue here. A massive source of cheap fossil fuel
energy that could power a resurgence of the American economy
has been discovered right here on our own continent.
Refining and selling locally to Americans would
result in dramatic price reductions in gasoline and other
petroleum distillates. But there's more money in selling it
overseas, so the big oil companies need to build a pipeline
to get the oil to a seaport where it can be put on ships and
sold for a higher profit. Oil companies will get their cake
and eat it too. They'll sell local oil overseas wherever
they can maximize profits, while at the same time,
keeping a lid on local supplies and therefore price.
If you support giving Keystone their pipeline you're
supporting continued outrageous prices at the gas
pump.
Kelly A.
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 07:50:44 -0600
From: ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] How much does it cost to
buy the U.S. Senate?
To:
Left wing billionaire pledges $100 million to buy the
Senate.
-RR
One man has answered the question, "How much does
it cost to buy the U.S. Senate?" The price tag and
his name came to light as the only plausible
explanation for an otherwise inexplicable event.
Two months ago, an even more bizarre spectacle
than usual took place on the Senate floor. From
the evening of March 10th through to the next morning,
about 30 Democratic senators held a 14-hour+ speechathon.
The event was billed as an attempt to push America into
addressing "climate change." Translation: It was meant to
publicize measures that would rectify so-called 'global
warming' and protect against environmental
'threats' such as the oil and gas industries....
Thomas Steyer...has been called the most
influential man in America with whom next to no one is
familiar...
... Steyer hosted a recent fundraiser at his San
Francisco home that netted the Democratic
Senatorial Campaign Committee $400,000 and where Senate
Majority Leader Harry M. Reid (D-Nev.) and the six other
Democratic senators in attendance openly discussed plans
for ...[ the] talkathon, according to reports."
In other words, the speechathon was planned at the
billionaire's home in Reid's presence. The
uber-influencial Reid is the same Democratic Senator who
lambasted the billionaire Koch brothers for their
donations to Republican causes and campaigns. On March 10,
the Business Insider reported Reid as stating, "I'm
trying to find a Republican – somebody, anybody –
who will raise an objection to two brothers trying
to buy America." Apparently, Reid wants only the Senate to
be up for sale, and only to a Democratic buyer.
How Much Did it Cost ... Steyer and the
Democrats?
So what was the Senate's price tag?
Let's see ... the talk-a-thon reportedly lasted 15 hours.
With the dangled pledge of $100 million to Democrats,
Steyer was able to buy (or rent) the floor of the Senate
at a rate of $6 million an hour. I agree with the
twitterer who wrote, "Who says Congress is broken?" The
fact that someone is willing to pay $6 million an hour for
it is a clear free-market sign of its worth. Correction:
This has nothing to do with the free market.
How Much Does the President Cost?
Political commentary sites are openly speculating
on whether Steyer can buy Obama's final decision
on the Keystone XL Pipeline, which would supply vast
quantities of Canadian oil to the U.S. The project has
strong bipartisan and public support; even two lengthy
environmental analyses by the State Department couldn't
point to any major environmental impact. Nevertheless, as
the Sunshine State News (Fla., April 25) reported:
"Never mind the Kochs. After assessing who did
what bad to America lately, I nominate Tom Steyer for
the top of the list. Last week the billionaire hedge fund
manager from San Francisco bought off the White House to
the tune of $100 million in order to delay the Keystone XL
pipeline decision." (Note: Steyer retired some while ago
from the hedge fund business.)
Predictably, Landrieu broke Democratic ranks to
castigate the delay. She called Obama's decision
"irresponsible, unnecessary and unacceptable" – a move to
satisfy extreme radicals while sacrificing 42,000 jobs and
billions from the economy. Other Democrats, such as Sen.
Mark Begich of Alaska, joined her.
The man who bought the Senate floor, the man who
bought Obama ... Thomas Steyer may also become the
man who thwarted Keystone and drove Canadian oil
toward China. If he fractures the Democratic Party,
however, he may cost them more than he can deliver.
"When you believe in things that you don't understand, then you suffer"
- Stevie Wonder "Superstition"
...
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