[sparkscoffee] Re: Global Un-Warming? Antarctic Sea-Ice Reaches Re cord High Levels
- From: "schalestock@xxxxxxxx" <schalestock@xxxxxxxx>
- To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 23:02:46 GMT
RR JF not JS. I agree with you. JS
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From: Ron Ristad <ristad@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Global Un-Warming? Antarctic Sea-Ice Reaches Record
High Levels
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2014 16:18:36 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
JS,
As stated in the article the Arctic sea ice has reached record high levels. It
was reported that the Arctic sea ice was melting, opening up the Northwest
Passage for shipping and uncovering land that could be drilled for oil and this
was true. What they didn't tell you is that the Arctic was freezing over much
more in other areas.
The Antarctic is at the other pole.
The cause of Antarctic warming is attributed to a hole on the ozone layer.
That's why they outlawed Freon-22. It didn't change anything except making
freon much more expensive.
As for hurricanes,
"The 2013 Atlantic hurricane season was the first since 1994 with no major
hurricanes,[nb 1] and the first since 1968 with no storms of at least Category
2 intensity on the Saffir–Simpson hurricane wind scale."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Atlantic_hurricane_season
-RR
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From: JF <lhouseparker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sep 16, 2014 8:04 PM
To: sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Global Un-Warming? Antarctic Sea-Ice Reaches Record
High Levels
On 9/16/2014 7:43 AM, Ron Ristad wrote:In what appears to be an awkward moment
of uncomfortable fact, ABC reports satellite imagery reveals an area of about
20 million square kilometres covered by sea ice around the Antarctic continent
- the highest level of coverage since records began. This is the 3rd year in a
row that the sea ice coverage has reached a record level - increasing at 1.5%
each decade since 1979.
-RR
Awkward uncomfortable fact? The implication of the above statement is pure BS
(a distortion of the ABC report, lying by omission).
The twisting of facts and frantic outpourings of disinformation by
industry-supported climate change deniers would be comical if the situation
weren't so potentially catastrophic for all of humanity. For example, the "ABC
reports" source quoted by RR is from the Australian network, not ABC in
America, and, if you read through the whole article, you will discover that it
does not deny the findings showing global warming, but in fact supports them
and explains the concomitant increase in Antarctic sea ice:
(excerpt:)
"As the area covered in sea ice expands scientists have said the ice on the
continent of Antarctica which is not over the ocean continues to deplete. CEO
of the Antarctic Climate and Ecosystems CRC, Tony Worby, said the warming
atmosphere is leading to greater sea ice coverage by changing wind patterns."
(unquote)
In short, Antarctic warming makes more ice slide into the sea, temporarily
making more sea ice (until it all melts) but leaving less and less on land,
which in itself will lead to more global warming due to less reflection of
incoming solar heat. For those that can't do arithmetic, if warming is
unchecked, eventually that will lead to, among other things, very little ice
in the polar regions, a big rise in sea level, and possibly shutting off the
Gulf stream which now warms the UK and northern Europe.
A little searching will readily turn up more data, for example:
(1) http://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/warming_antarctica.html
The new analysis shows that Antarctic surface temperatures increased an
average of 0.22°F (0.12°C) per decade between 1957 and 2006. That's a rise of
more than 1°F (0.5°C) in the last half century. West Antarctica warmed at a
higher rate, rising 0.31°F (0.17°C) per decade. The results, published Jan. 22
in Nature, confirm earlier findings based on limited weather station data and
ice cores.
While some areas of East Antarctica have been cooling in recent decades, the
longer 50-year trend depicts that, on average, temperatures are rising across
the continent.
(2) http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?release=2014-148
May 12, 2014
A new study by researchers at NASA and the University of California,
Irvine, finds a rapidly melting section of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet appears
to be in an irreversible state of decline, with nothing to stop the glaciers in
this area from melting into the sea.
(3) http://climate.nasa.gov/key_indicators/
Charts - trends in world CO2 levels, surface temps, Arctic sea ice, land
ice (including Antarctica & Greenland ice mass changes), sea level.
One wonders why RR ignores other opinions, like those of one of his neighbors,
Costa Rican figure José María Figueres (former president of Costa Rica), who
said at a 2012 panel at the Brookings Institution:
"Over the last four years, the Central American isthmus has endured more than
50,000 deaths and the displacement of 10 million people,” said moderator
Kevin Casas-Zamora, a senior fellow at Brookings. “Since the 1970s,
disasters related to climate change have grown 5 percent a year. The number of
hurricanes has increased five-fold, and the number of floods has tripled.
Hurricane Mitch, arguably the worst disaster ever to hit Central America, cost
$16 billion. With half the population living in poverty, the region’s
governments face an impossible task of having to constantly rebuild their
infrastructure.Yet even though Central America contributes next to nothing in
global warming, the region suffers the brunt of its consequences."
Of course the world's rich fossil fuel industries will be happy - they will be
able to extract more and more from newly exposed areas, leading to more
warming, make more and more money, bribe more and more politicians and thus
make their own laws, control more and more media, put out more and more
self-serving disinformation, and, even more importantly, be able to shelter
themselves in exclusive air-conditioned gated communities for the elite,
protected by their very own bought and paid for police forces, courts, and even
armies.
Where have I heard of civilizations in such straits before? One first thinks of
those led into disaster by lunatics like Stalin, Hitler, Chairman Mao and the
like, but let's face it, they were unsophisticated amateurs.
73
John F.
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