DR Lately when I try to forward attachments sent to me they get stripped off but the message goes through which is another problem I am having. Government owning the means of productions and banks is the basic description of socialism as far as humble me knows. Sorry if you feel we do a lot of lieing. I don't follow through on all links, especially those I have to type in. I don't like iron fisted but I can accept it depending on how good the results are. It is up the Chinese people to decide if they want to change it, consider many like it that way and it certainly is not up to outsiders like you and me to do the changes. Other countries are run also ruled by iron fisted rulers. Do you think you can make any changes in our country which is not ruled by iron fisters? Stanley -----Original Message----- From: D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@xxxxxxxx> To: sparkscoffee <sparkscoffee@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Sep 27, 2014 8:38 pm Subject: [sparkscoffee] Re: Emailing: Capitalism vs Socialism column Stanley, Since you're using SparksCoffee to remail your personal email, why not forward to the group Chuck's email to you complete with attachments. Government ownership of a factory doesn't make it socialistic, it could make it fascistic. Could you back up your statements? They just look like Socialist Buzz Words which are unsubstantiated. My experience is that nearly everything that socialists and communists say are intentional lies. I submitted a list of some of these complete with links to original source material last week and not one of my statements or sources were refuted. I for one would not praise any government that is (in your words) "iron fisted". But that's communism for you, iron fisted, and full of control of the people. The only thing in communism that's equal is that there is bondage for all and even that's not equal to everyone, some of the party members and ruling class have it better. Just don't cross the party boss of the leader of the country, or he will do a Kim Jong-un on you like he did to his uncle. We have our sociopaths too in this country and they also love money more than justice. 73 DR On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Redacted sender sblumen123@xxxxxxx for DMARC <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: -----Original Message----- From: "" (Redacted sender "sblumen123@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)">sblumen123@xxxxxxx> To: sblumen123 <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Sep 27, 2014 10:42 am Subject: Re: Emailing: Capitalism vs Socialism column -----Original Message----- From: "" (Redacted sender "sblumen123@xxxxxxx" for DMARC)">sblumen123@xxxxxxx> To: chuckdelray <chuckdelray@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sat, Sep 27, 2014 10:38 am Subject: Re: Emailing: Capitalism vs Socialism column Chuck Your attachment describing the difference between Capitilism and Socialism favoring Capitalism is standard, often repeated, un-original clap trap which is not supported by current events. Capitalism is shrinking and failing while Socialism is growing and succeeding. Over populated China is our newest and still growing super power making big time deals world wide including with the United States in their favor with their engineering helped in the beginning with our forever greedy rich looking to get richer. Whether you call China Capitalist, Socialist or a Mixture no one is arguing that it is run by a bunch of iron fisted Communists. In fact there are many complaints that their competitive private deals is financed and otherwise supported by State owned banks over bidding foreign private competition. Not only is ours and the worlds shelves loaded with low, medium and high tech goods made in China but they also have around a trillion dollars of our interesting paying bonds and they are also buying big time American buisnesses. while Chinese buisnesses are not for sale except recently on our Stock Exchange where I doubt outside money is going to grab over 50% control. Installing a foreign factory in China requires Joint Venture meaning the State owns presumably 50% making half the factory socialistic. An Australian some time ago told me that China bought 3 mines paying enough to wipe out their national debt. About time to take your head out of the sand and look at current events and trends but I am guessing you wont? Can't teach an old dog new tricks. Stanley -----Original Message----- From: Chuck Delray <chuckdelray@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: sblumen123 <sblumen123@xxxxxxx> Sent: Fri, Sep 26, 2014 1:52 pm Subject: Emailing: Capitalism vs Socialism column Your message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Capitalism vs Socialism column Note: To protect against computer viruses, e-mail programs may prevent sending or receiving certain types of file attachments. Check your e-mail security settings to determine how attachments are handled.