Kia ora gina Thanks for your speedy reply.the roughness of sand might be good as a laundry soap like the sandsoap that is sold commercially....for scrubbing nasty stained things....we have some quite fine dark sand on our river estuary so I might give that a go. Some1 told me they used pumice sand and that it was quite fine, I don't think I have seen this sand so I am not sure whether our sand would be coarser or not. Interesting re your trace comments, I tend to mix at the higher range of temps, cos I cant wait any longer...and as for hotter in the summer, well that's if we ever get one, we have had about 3 days so far! yeah I have been using a stick blender-its gr8!perhaps that's why I have been having so much fun, cos its so quick.. :) thanks Arohanui Mandy Coleman Mokihinui Mansions 36-56 Lewis Street Mokihinui RD1 Westport 037821837 0273075881 -----Original Message----- From: soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:soapcraft-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gina Roberts Sent: Thursday, 7 January 2010 12:57 p.m. To: soapcraft@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [soapcraft] Sand in soap Thanks for the lovely introduction Mandy. Yes I have used sand in my soap. Everyyear I go camping with my family at Kai Iwi Lakes and so one year I used the lakes sand. It was nice and scrubby. Not sure about blending it right through though...........i think it can be a little to rough but would be suitable for guys hands........remember solvo soap............that was a sand type soap. I spread a layer of sand on top of the soap. During the warmer months you can get away with a much lighter trace (light custard) and it pays to keep your soap making tempertures at the lower range around 30 ish because soap can set quickly and seize in warm weather. Over winter you can increase temperatures and stir until a little thicker. Are you using a wizz stick........I am all for natural hand blending but its a time issue. Wizz sticking is very quick. Other peoples experience would be great to hear. Happy New Year Gina ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- To unsubscribe from this list go to //www.freelists.org/list/soapcraft enter your email address and choose unsubscribe. Or you can send an email to soapcraft-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.127/2603 - Release Date: 01/06/10 07:35:00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe from this list go to //www.freelists.org/list/soapcraft enter your email address and choose unsubscribe. Or you can send an email to soapcraft-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the subject line. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------