[slikom] Re: Ai Squared releases Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1
- From: Faruk Jusufagić <faruk.jusufagic@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:12:36 +0100
Gospodine Raddovanoviću javite mi se prrivatnno pa ću vam poslatti
dodatak za nvdda koji itzgovara kopi paste.
Dana 26.11.2014. 15:41, musicmaestro@xxxxxx je napisao:
> Silom prilika presao sam na NVDA misleci da cu se sto pre sa njega ponovo
> vratiti na Jaws.
> Ne znam o kakvim nestabilnostima je rec, ali bar sto se toga tice, NVDA,
> me nikada nie ostavio bespomocnog.
> Mozda njegove oci ne vide toliko kao Jaws, ali i to treba uzeti sa
> velikomrezervom, jer se ja ne smatram uopste pouzdanim dsa to odgovorno
> posvedocim, ali ono sto ovaj citac ekrana pruza, ja sam vise nego
> zadovoljan.
> Mnogo se prijatnije osecam, sto je to besplatan citac ekrana, i sto ga
> prilagodjavaju nama uglavnom slepi i slabovidi strucnjaci za ovu oblast,
> koji svakako znaju, sta nam je najvaznije, i na cemu treba raditi.
> Istina ja ne znam, pocev od Jaws verzije trinaest, i dalje koliko je Jaws
> ucinio internet prihvatljivijim nama, ali NVDA, i mozila fire fox, bukvalno
> rade kao tim snova, bar za ono sto ja ocekujem odinterneta, a to je pre
> svega da sto pre i kvalitetnije, i razume se sto jednostavnije dodjem do
> informacije koja me zanima.
> e, sad uporedjivati ova dva citaca za svaku aplikaciju posebno, se ne bih
> usudjivao. Ima onih kod kojih je Jaws, svakako jos uvek neprikosnoveniji, tu
> pre svega mislim na songar, koja bar po mom sudu, najjednostavnije preuzima
> dokumente sa You tube stranice, ali zato mislim da je NVDA za skype, bar u
> istoj ravni.
> Bas danas sam preuzeo verziju koja mi je vise puta mudjena, i nisam
> primetio nikakve probleme u njegovom koriscenju, i ako nisam uzimao nikakve
> skripte, ni bilo sta, sto bi mozda radio, kada sam imao Jaws.
> NVDA, svojim glasovima nije prvi kvalitet, dok se na njega ne naviknete,
> sto ume da potraje nekih mesec dana, ali posle toga, on je razumljiv, i ne
> bas toliko i neprijatan.
> Odaziv mu je jednostavno fascinantan. Ne pamtim, kada je zaglavio, a da je
> aplikacija bila u redu, i uredno radila.
> Bukvalno sve cita, i bez obzira sto uglavnom nema kursor, kao Jaws do
> svih podataka se lako dolazi.
> Ono sto mislim da programeri, ako sm upotrebio pravu rec treba da odrade,
> kako bi ovaj citac bio jos kvalitetniji, to je da ogranice broj informacija
> pritiskom na jedan taster.
> Primer. U svojstvima, nekih aplikacija, NVDA cita sve informacije od
> jednom, dok je to kod Jaws aplikacije, uradjeno po odeljcima, tako da
> strelicama idete od informacije do informacije, sto se meni vise svidja.
> U ozbiljne nedostatke ovog citaca ubrajami onu, gde on gotovo nigde ne
> izgovara )Copy), kada pritisnete tu komandu.
> Imam obavestenje da to on cini, ali morate da ukljucite njegovu
> mogucnost, da pored te informacije, izgovara i neke koje uglavnom vam nisu u
> prvom prioritetu, i manje su vam vazne.
> dakle ona postoji u stepenu detaljnijeg izgovora, sto mislim da je lose
> resenje.
> Ponavljam, ovaj citac ekrna, koristim, kao jedini, i navikao sam se na
> njegove nedostatke, koji nisu takvi, da bih ga smatrao manje vrednijim od
> Jaws-a.
> Mozda su najveca nevolja, precice, koje mozda postoje ali ih ne znam, a
> zbog malo ljudi koji su presli na koriscenje ovog citaca ekrana, kod nas, do
> pravih informacija se vrlo tesko dolazi.
> Tu pre svega mislim na precice za vinamp, pa I za internet, ali I ovako
> internet je zaista kvalitetno pokriven sa NVDA, I tu mi Jaws zaista najmanje
> nedostaje, usudio bih se reci, da bi mi NVDA, mozda nedostajao I vise da je
> situacija obrnuta, tj. da koristim samoJaws.
> Zato, ako uopste smem nesto preporuciti, kao skroman poznavalac oe
> oblasti, to je da cete sebi svakako mnogo pomoci, ako u racunaru kao drugi,
> ipak instalirate I NVDA, koji vam svakako nece smetati, ali moza moze pomoci
> I u situacijama, kada ni sami to ne bi ste ocekivali.
> O toj temi od mene toliko.
> Pozdrav do neke nove poruke na temu mailing liste Slikom.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todosijevic
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 1:40 PM
> To: slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [slikom] Re: Ai Squared releases Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1
>
>
>
> Zdravo Milose
>
>
> Nisam neko, ko ce ti dati potpune odgovore. Ali, imam oba citaca na
> kompu. Ono, sto mene muci je, isto to, sto i sam pises. Navikao sam se na
> JAWS,
> pa mi njegove precice u NVDA nedostaju.
> Druga stvar, kod JAWS-a sam navikao na njegove kursore,
> pa ih bezuspesno kod NVDA trazim.
> Za Internet ne mogu napisati nista, jer ih nisam poredio.
> Mada neki pricaju, da se NVDA bolje snalazi kod Mozile.
> Ubedjenja sam, da je NVDA eksplozivnija i ima bolji odaziv.
> Vidim, da su veoma aktivni, te da dosta cesto stizu Up Date-ovi.
> Iz mog iskustva je kod NVDA program veoma stabilan
> i, redje zasteka nego JAWS.
> Ocekujem i naprednije korisnike da se ukljuce u tvoju Temu. Poz.
>
> Milan
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Milos Przic" <milos.przic@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 9:40 AM
> Subject: [slikom] Re: Ai Squared releases Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1
>
>
>> Zdravo svima,
>> Ovo sa web stranama je jako primamljivo. Verovatno ste svi imali problem
>> da
>> ne mozete da se pohvatate sa nekim kome nesto pokusavate da pokazete na
>> nekoj web strani. Ja tu muku imam otkad radim na racunaru, i razvio sam
>> neke
>> taktike da ovo prevazidem, ali to nikada ne funkcionise 100 posto.
>> Da li neko koristi window eyes kao primarni citac ekrana? Ako da, sto ne
>> bismo malo poredili Jaws, Nvda i Window Eyes, da porazgovaramo sta je
>> prakticnije i zasto? Znacajan faktor je navika. Ja recimo nikako ne mogu
>> da
>> predem na nvda jer mi deluje nestabilno, iako radi brze nego Jaws, a
>> window
>> eyes nikad nisam ni probao, verovatno opet zbog te neke navike da koristim
>> Jaws... Znam da ne valja, zato i hocu da cujem sta ostali kazu na tu
>> temu...
>> Pozdrav!
>> Milos Przic
>> Twitter: MilosPrzic
>> Skype: Milosh-hs
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Gradimir Kragic" <bastono@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: "Lista SliKom" <slikom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 6:06 AM
>> Subject: [slikom] Ai Squared releases Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Zdravo svima,
>>>
>>> Ova poruka u nastavku je uglavnom na Engleskom jeziku pa mnogima nece
>>> biti od koristi. Ipak, oni koji mogu da ovaj tekst procitaju,
>>> preporucujem
>>> da ga citaju. Vec se na ovoj listi pisalo o integraciji dva proizvodaca
>>> software za slijepe u jednu firmu. Ujedinili su se: GWMicro i Ai Squared.
>>> Evo vec inovacija u Window-Eye kao rezultata te zajednicke firme.
>>>
>>> Procitati sta je novo u novoj jos beta verziji. Oni koji ove software
>>> prate malo detaljnije bice zanimljivo da uporede novine u najnovijoj
>>> verziji JAWS 16.0 i Window-Eye. Tesko da cemo docekati da se u ovu novo
>>> ujedinjenu firmu ukljuci i Freedom Scientific jer su njihovi medusobni
>>> odnosi vrlo komplikovani, bilo je tu i sudskih sporova... Ali jedno takvo
>>> ujedinjenje bi dalo najbolje softversko rjesenje.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ai Squared releases Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1
>>>
>>> Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 features all new web support
>>>
>>> FORT WAYNE, IN (November 24 2014) - Ai Squared, the maker of ZoomText,
>>> sitecues, and Window-Eyes announced the highly anticipated release of
>>> Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 today. This is one of the largest releases we
>>> have
>>> ever delivered! It includes a wide range of major innovations and
>>> improvements that expand the capabilities and ease of use of Window-Eyes.
>>> These include:
>>>
>>> 1. Greatly improved web support in IE and FF
>>> · Support for ARIA and HTML 5
>>> · Support for dynamic web pages
>>> · Intelligent web support that uses smart algorithms which ensure
>>> proper screen reading
>>> · New innovative and robust web table support that's the best in
>>> the industry
>>> 2. Enhanced ease of use and convenience features
>>> · Easy to use tool for enhanced text selection, copying and
>>> format
>>> retention in IE
>>> · Keyboard access to mouse movements for reading in IE. Properly
>>> reads column text
>>> · Easily interact with sighted friends, family, and co-workers
>>> while browsing the web as each line that is read is what is seen visually
>>> · Improved responsiveness making you more efficient and
>>> productive
>>> · Auto-recovery tool that enables users to restart Window-Eyes at
>>> the press of a hot key if another program causes it to stop responding
>>> 3. New compatibility support for popular software programs
>>> · Better support for Office Web Apps
>>> · QuickBooks for Windows support
>>> · Outlook meeting request enhancements
>>> · Google Docs, Google Slides, and Google Charts support
>>> · MathPlayer support
>>> 4. Even better out-of-the-box experience
>>> · Improved support for MSAA, which creates a better
>>> out-of-the-box
>>> experience in programs like Windows Media Player
>>> · Improved support to the native Outlook calendar
>>> 5. Preliminary support for Windows 10
>>>
>>> Intelligent web support to makes sure users get the best possible access
>>> to
>>> web sites. With intelligent web support, Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1
>>> recognizes
>>> faulty information in web browsers and then uses special algorithms to
>>> correct or to fill in for this deficiency. The end result is that you
>>> always get the best web experience. With added responsiveness, users can
>>> now navigate around the web, within Windows, or their favorite programs
>>> with a more responsive feel and with greater reliability.
>>>
>>> ARIA and HTML 5 in both Internet Explorer and Firefox. This will allow
>>> users to run the latest versions of either browser with ease and also
>>> enable seamless access to dynamic web pages. With the new Browse mode,
>>> users no longer need to reload an entire web page after a change has
>>> occurred. As users move through the web page, each line is built on the
>>> fly, rather than put into a virtual buffer, giving the most accurate
>>> information all the time.. This new technology will help users navigate
>>> dynamic menus and other types of interactive content on web pages with
>>> ease
>>> and even offers users additional capabilities, such as improved access to
>>> websites like Twitter.
>>>
>>> Brand-new mouse and table support for the web. Users are able to read
>>> web
>>> pages with the mouse and route the mouse pointer to the current location
>>> on
>>> a webpage in Internet Explorer to be able to click or interact with items
>>> that lack keyboard support. This improved functionality makes web pages
>>> that are difficult to use more accessible. Window-Eyes now has advanced
>>> table support as well. Users will no longer have to go into a special
>>> table mode to navigate. Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 can even handle complex
>>> tables like those found on Wikipedia with ease with the best table
>>> support
>>> on the web.
>>>
>>> With these enhancements in web browsing support and mouse reading, users
>>> can now better communicate with sighted co-workers, friends and family.
>>> With Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 now reading each visual line on a web page,
>>> it
>>> is easy for sighted colleagues to follow along. Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1
>>> provides enhanced text selection in Internet Explorer, making it easier
>>> to
>>> select and copy both text and images from web pages. The selected text
>>> retains all formatting, so users can copy text and images just as a
>>> sighted
>>> person would select them with the mouse.
>>>
>>> MathPlayer is now supported in Microsoft Word. For the first time, screen
>>> reader users can navigate and read math equations in Word, using simple
>>> and
>>> intuitive keyboard commands. MathPlayer is a free downloadable plug-in
>>> from
>>> Design Science and is required for enhanced access to math equations in
>>> Word with Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1.
>>>
>>> Help increase productivity including a new hot key in Microsoft Office
>>> Outlook to display the availability of attendees when scheduling
>>> appointments. This meeting request support will allow users to easily
>>> schedule appointments with others in their office by quickly being able
>>> to
>>> determine when their colleagues are available.
>>>
>>> Built-in and enhanced support for QuickBooks for Windows 2014 and newer.
>>> Thanks to the partnership between My Blind Spot and Ai Squared,
>>> Window-Eyes
>>> 9.0 Beta 1 now has, Window-Eyes 9.01 Beta 1 has support for QuickBooks
>>> for
>>> Windows. There is no need to download a special third party solution for
>>> QuickBooks support, as support is now built right into Window-Eyes with
>>> the
>>> QB Enhanced app. Users can now be more productive with improved access
>>> to
>>> this popular financial software package that is used around the world.
>>>
>>> Google Docs, Google Charts, and Google Slides support. Users can now get
>>> access to these web based programs that are becoming more and more
>>> popular
>>> in both educational and professional settings.
>>>
>>> New auto recovery tool allows users to remain independent because now
>>> Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 can be closed and restarted with a simple key
>>> command if another program stops responding. This new feature enables
>>> users to be more independent as they no longer need sighted assistance to
>>> restart their screen reader if speech stops responding because of other
>>> programs.
>>>
>>> Preliminary support for Windows 10! Ai Squared is staying ahead of the
>>> competition by designing Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 with preliminary support
>>> for Windows 10. Even though Windows 10 is still under development,
>>> Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 is already working in many areas of the new
>>> operating system from Microsoft including the new and improved Windows 10
>>> Start menu.
>>>
>>> Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 can be downloaded now at www.gwmicro.com/beta!
>>>
>>> SMAs are back! Ai Squared is also proud to announce the return of the
>>> Window-Eyes Software Maintenance Agreement (SMA)! Customers who own the
>>> latest version of Window-Eyes can now purchase a 2-count SMA to ensure
>>> their software is always up-to-date.
>>>
>>> Take advantage of the special upgrade offer! For customers who don't own
>>> the latest version of Window-Eyes or have an active SMA, they may
>>> purchase
>>> the upgrade to Window-Eyes 9.0 beginning now. For customers who purchase
>>> the upgrade before it is released, they will receive $50 off of the
>>> upgrade
>>> price, so order today before this special offer ends! Customers in the
>>> United States can get all pricing information at www.gwmicro.com/catalog.
>>> Those outside of the United States should contact their local dealer for
>>> pricing. Find your local dealer at www.gwmicro.com/dealers.
>>>
>>> Currently, the public beta is available in English-only. Anyone using
>>> the
>>> English version of the retail version or the Window-Eyes Offer for Users
>>> of
>>> Microsoft Office can download and use the public beta. For anyone who
>>> has
>>> a valid license of Microsoft Office 2010 or higher, Window-Eyes can be
>>> downloaded for free at www.windoweyesforoffice.com. If you haven't tried
>>> Window-Eyes in a while, give Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1 a try for free today!
>>>
>>> For more information about Window-Eyes 9.0 Beta 1, visit
>>> www.gwmicro.com/beta or contact Ai Squared at (802) 362-3612 or via email
>>> at orders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.
>>>
>>> ___
>>>
>>>
>>> About Ai Squared: Ai Squared (www.aisquared.com) has been the worldwide
>>> leader in assistive technology solutions for people who are visually
>>> impaired for over 20 years. The product line is available in over 20
>>> languages and sold in 45 countries through a network of over 350 global
>>> distributors. Ai Squared's screen magnification and screen-reading
>>> products
>>> dramatically improve a computer's usability and friendliness for users
>>> who
>>> are blind or low vision, raising their level of productivity,
>>> satisfaction,
>>> and independence. The family of Ai Squared products includes ZoomText,
>>> ZoomText Large-Print Keyboard, ZoomText ImageReader, ZoomText Mac,
>>> Window-Eyes, sitecues, the ZoomReader iOS app, and the ZoomContacts iPad
>>> app.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Aaron Smith
>>> Web Development * App Development * Product Support Specialist
>>> Ai Squared * 725 Airport North Office Park, Fort Wayne, IN 46825
>>> 260-489-3671 * www.aisquared.com
>>>
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