Zhenwei The max input spec is not 3.6V + 0.4V it is the present Vcc plus 0.4V. The spec is trying to tell you not to turn on the clamp diode. The clamp diode is referenced to Vcc and not allowing the voltage to go greater than 0.4V above Vcc will keep the clamp diode off. Tom Dagostino Teraspeed Labs 9999 SW Wilshire St. Suite 102 Portland, OR 97225 USA 971-279-5325 Office 971-279-5326 FAX 503-430-1065 Cell tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx www.teraspeed.com Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 401-284-1827 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of WANG Zhenwei Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 6:13 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] what level of overshoot is acceptalbe Hi guys, I have a problem: what level of overshoot is acceptable? I was ordered to qualify a new nand flash on my project. There are an signal integrity measurement on overshooting. Some info form spec of nand: 1. power supply:3.3V, so the ideal logic high is 3.3V. 2. max power : 3.6V 3. Input High Voltage VIH: 2.0~ VCC +0.3; Input Low Voltage VIL, -0.3~0.8 3. NOTE : 1) VIL can undershoot to -0.4V and VIH can overshoot to VCC + 0.4V for durations of 20 ns or less. So my formula is : The max acceptable overshoot=(max power + 0.4V )/( ideal logic high )=(3.6V + 0.4V)/3.3V!%. Am I right? BR Zhenwei Wang ------------------------------------------------------------------ ALCATEL-LUCENT APAC ENTERPRISE ENGINEERING AND DEVELOPMENT CENTER Zhenwei.Wang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu