Hi Jeff, Excuse me for jumping in. It just happened to me recently to refresh my memory about the relation between S parameters and "voltage transfer ratio", VTR, (where the latter I think is the ratio of the voltage across the load to the voltage on the input voltage source, in AC mode). Actually, VTR is completely defined by S21 if: - S-parameters were measured for the entire 2-port where the 1-st port is to attach the source and the 2-nd port is for load; - the source's internal impedance and the load's impedance are equal the corresponding S-parameter reference impedances (these two are often equal but this is not necessary) If either of these two conditions isn't true, S21 and VTR are not related with a factor 0.5 (VTR # 0.5*S12) Vladimir -----Original Message----- From: FreeLists Mailing List Manager [mailto:ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 9:21 PM To: si-list digest users Subject: si-list Digest V7 #326 Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: AC Coupled Signals Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2007 19:47:54 -0700 From: "Loyer, Jeff" <jeff.loyer@xxxxxxxxx> Hi Istvan, Could you point me towards more information on the "voltage transfer ratio", and the difference between it and s21/s12? When I did the pulse response of a system where S21 =3D3D S12 (though S11 and S22 were very different, and the reflections were significant), it came out equal (p21 =3D3D p12, see my posting of 9/15). Thus, I think the eye diagram will = =3D come out equal if S21 =3D3D S12. =3D20 Thanks, Jeff Loyer ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu