hi, finally i have succeeded in running the rlgc file, created by the FieldSolver, and here are my conclusions: when you run a FieldSolver in order to create an RLGC file that you can use later, and you specify RLGCFILE=rlgc_filename.rlc in the .model command, the Hspice doesn't create an RLGC file, but create an RLGC Model, and just appends it to the file you specified. there are some syntax differences between an RLGCFILE and an RLGCmodel, so the simplest solution, in my opinion is just to take this file, and use the .include to call him to your spice sim'. then when using the W element use the 'RLGCMODEL=...' and not the 'RLGCFILE=..." and again special thanks to you, matt. Yonatan (Yoni) Tzafrir *Tel: (972) - 3 - 7552300 (T/L: 351) *Fax: (972) - 3 - 6177130 *Mobile: (972) -54- 459469 *E-mail: <mailto:yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> -----Original Message----- From: ruston, matt [mailto:ruston_matt@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:59 PM To: 'Yoni Tzafrir' Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] running rlgc file Yoni: Hi. Try this rlgc file. When you call the file via the rlcgfile = xxxxxx.rlgc, the rlgc file must conform to a certain syntax. The field solver doesn't put it out in this syntax, so I hand edit the file to make it conform. I think it conforms (or must conform) to the old "U" element in spice (off the top of my head). - Comment out the .MODEL statement - Insert the number of lines in the structure on a line before the array (in your case, 12) - Comment out the Lo, Co, Ro, Go, Rs, & Gd headers - Remove the "=" sign between the header and the 1st element in the array - start the array on the next line (i.e. insert a cr/lf) This should work for you. Please let me know how it goes. Regards, Matt -----Original Message----- From: Yoni Tzafrir [mailto:yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 9:26 AM To: ruston, matt Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] running rlgc file here is the file. btw it was created by Hspice FieldSolver and not by me. Yonatan (Yoni) Tzafrir *Tel: (972) - 3 - 7552300 (T/L: 351) *Fax: (972) - 3 - 6177130 *Mobile: (972) -54- 459469 *E-mail: <mailto:yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> -----Original Message----- From: ruston, matt [mailto:ruston_matt@xxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 4:13 PM To: 'Yoni Tzafrir' Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] running rlgc file Yoni: Hi. Please send me your rlgc file. I'll take a look at it. Regards, Matt -----Original Message----- From: Yoni Tzafrir [mailto:yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 5:58 AM To: ruston, matt Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] running rlgc file it still does'nt work Yonatan (Yoni) Tzafrir *Tel: (972) - 3 - 7552300 (T/L: 351) *Fax: (972) - 3 - 6177130 *Mobile: (972) -54- 459469 *E-mail: <mailto:yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> -----Original Message----- From: ruston, matt [mailto:ruston_matt@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:08 PM To: 'yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'; Si-List (E-mail) Subject: RE: [SI-LIST] running rlgc file Yoni: Hi. Put the N=12 number after the input and output nodes. I order the call like this: wcard cardsig1 cardsig2 cardsig3 cardsig4 cardsig5 cardsig6 cardsig7 +cardsig8 cardsig9 cardsig10 cardsig11 cardsig12 0 +cardout1 cardout2 cardout3 cardout4 cardout5 cardout6 cardout7 cardout8 +cardout9 cardout10 cardout11 cardout12 0 N=12 l='5*0.025' +RLGCFILE=rlgc12.rlgc Don't forget that "l" is in meters. Regards, Matt -----Original Message----- From: Yoni Tzafrir [mailto:yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 8:11 AM To: Si-List (E-mail) Subject: [SI-LIST] running rlgc file > -----Original Message----- > From: Yoni Tzafrir > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 3:09 PM > To: Zafrany@Synopsys. Com (E-mail) > Cc: Ophir Eisen > Subject: running rlgc file > > hi, > i am trying to use an rlgc file: > <<rlgc12.rlgc>> > i am calling it that way: > wcard N=12 cardsig1 cardsig2 cardsig3 cardsig4 cardsig5 cardsig6 cardsig7 > cardsig8 cardsig9 cardsig10 cardsig11 cardsig12 0 > +cardout1 cardout2 cardout3 cardout4 cardout5 cardout6 cardout7 cardout8 > cardout9 cardout10 cardout11 cardout12 0 > +RLGCFILE=rlgc12.rlgc l='5*0.025' > > but i am getting:"error in reading number of lines in rlgc file" pop up > window while trying to run the simulation. > i know for sure there is no limitaion on the number conductors because it > specified in the models manual. > what could be the problem? > > > Yonatan (Yoni) Tzafrir > *Tel: (972) - 3 - 7552300 (T/L: 351) > *Fax: (972) - 3 - 6177130 > *Mobile: (972) -54- 459469 > *E-mail: <mailto:yonitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: application/octet-stream -- File: rlgc12.rlgc ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu