If I read Raj's question correctly, he is asking a question many of us have asked : How can the impedance for a transmission line be so independent of frequency when normal circuit impedance is so extremely dependent on frequency? If you look into the telegrapher's equations you will see the derivation of t-line impedances...this shows a logical, yet hard to understand, trail to our familiar equation for the Z of a t-line. Jim Peterson Honeywell -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tom Dagostino Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 12:34 AM To: nagaup1@xxxxxxxxx; 'si-list' Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: impedance and Characteristic impedance Zo =3D3D SQRT(2PiFL/2PiFC). Yes there are terms for resistance and =3D conductance too but for this we can ignore them. The frequency dependence drops out =3D so Z0 =3D3D SQRT(L/C). L and C can be functions of frequency but that is = =3D minor compared to their magnitudes for most frequencies in most applications. Tom Dagostino Teraspeed(R) Labs 13610 SW Harness Lane Beaverton, OR 97008 503-430-1065 tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20 www.teraspeed.com=3D20 Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 401-284-1827 -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] =3D On Behalf Of nagaraj Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:04 PM To: si-list Subject: [SI-LIST] impedance and Characteristic impedance When I say impedance, it depends on the capacitance and inductance. So, these two components depend on frequency =3D (wL and 1/wC, where w=3D3D 2xpixF). When I say characteristic impedance, it too has capacitance and inductance involved. So when I say I maintain 50 ohm characteristic impedance on my board... there may be lot of frequencies involved in the design resulting in different characteristic impedance. =3D then how the board is said as a 50 ohm impedance controlled..? =3D20 =3D20 =3D20 Thanks and regards, Raj. =3D20 ________________________________________________________________________ _=3D ___ ________ The fish are biting.=3D20 Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: =3D20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =3D20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu