Jeff, Based on the assumption that your printed-circuit board is linear, you can use superposition to get crosstalk between differential pairs: all what you need to know is how to get Kb/Kf between two single-ended traces. In a simple differential pair crosstalk scenario you have four traces instead of two, plus the return plane(s). You have four possible combinations for differential crosstalk: both the aggressor and victim pair can be differential mode or common mode, so you will end up with four Kb and four Kf values as soon as you approprietly combine the crosstalk coefficients between two single-ended traces according to the modes. Regards, Istvan Novak SUN Microsystems ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ho, Jeff (¦ó¬F¾± IEC1)" <Ho.Jeff@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2003 4:09 AM Subject: [SI-LIST] differential pairs crosstalk effect > Dear experts, > > How to estimate Kb/Kf coefficient or crosstalk effect between differential pair to pair ? I'd appreciate if anyone can tell me if there is some freebie that may help. > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu