Hi Zhang Kun, Two things could cause HFSS simulation results differ from theoretical results. One is boundary condition and the other one is the excitation port settings. For your case, most likely it was due to port settings. Did you use via in your HFSS simulation at the port? The coupling between via and power/ground planes, and coupling between vias could cause resonant frequency changes.=20 The theoretical equation is based on certain assumptions. One of them is that E field is vertical between power/ground planes. In real simulations, any openings on power/ground plane could invalidate this assumption, so it is very difficult to match simulation and theoretical results. Regards, Zhiping -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Zhangkun Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 7:10 PM To: si-list Subject: [SI-LIST] Transfer Impedance of Regular Power Plane Pair Dear All In the current research, we found an interesting result about the transfer impedance of regular power plane pair. We need some help to solve the problem. We use HFSS to simulate the impednce of regular power plane pair. Any advice would be helpful. According to the theory, the transfer impedance of regular power plane pair coudl be expressed by means of Double Sigma Function. In the expression, the thickness of dielectric would not affect the shape of the impedance. However, in our simulation, we found out that the frequency location of pole and zero of the impedance is affected by the thickness of the dielectric. Reference Paper: Estimating the Power Bus Impedance of Printed Circuit Boards With Embedded Capacitance, IEEE Trans on Advanced Package, Aug. 2002 Best Regards Zhangkun 200610.27 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: =20 //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu =20 ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu