Hi Steve, Do you use SPECCTRAQuest? SQ allows you to write subcircuit-based MacroModels for drivers and receivers, which leverage the basic IBIS data you often get. You can model advanced effects like driver pre-emphasis and receiver equalization pretty easily. The key to doing this is to get some basic working examples from which to start. We have given such examples to a couple of early customers recently with great success. They were able to overlay their transistor- level SPICE results (for pre-emphasis drivers), and get simulation times that were several hundred times faster, using SPECCTRAQuest vs. their transistor-level SPICE. We will be posting a small downloadable library of these advanced MacroModel examples in the next few days on http://www.specctraquest.com/ to help people get started. If you are stuck in the meantime and can't wait, please contact me off-line. thanks, Ken Willis -----Original Message----- From: Steve Nguyen [mailto:steve.nguyen@xxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:04 PM To: tom@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; arafi001@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; emc_gibney@xxxxxxxxxxx Cc: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: SPICE or IBIS Hi All, Related to IBISs, I'm trying to creat IBIS model for TX driver with =3D pre-emphasis and de-emphasis. Can anyone show me examples how to do this =3D please ? thank you very much. Thanks for you help. - Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu