Padma, it's not really true that you are not using a test fixture. You are using a simple and uncalibrated test fixture that will limit accuracy and frequency range. How much impairment your test can suffer and still yield useful results depends on what you are trying to find out. I think you at least want to be able to characterize your test fixture. Better still would be to deembed it. Deembedded or not if it is capable of giving you sufficiently accurate information over the frequency range that you need then you are good to go. If not, you will need to redesign / refine your fixture until it does. The thickness of the copper plate depends on how much penetration leakage you can accept at the low frequency limit. An 8b/10b 10Gbps link needs only a few microns thickness of Cu to achieve effectively zero leakage. <<<WARNING! SHAMELESS PLUG WARNING!>>> If you really want to know how that connector performs, we are in the business of characterizing: ICs, interconnects, and packages. Contact Tom in our Oregon office. Steve padma gundala wrote: > Hi, > I am planning to test a connector without a test fixture. (The connector is > designed to be suitable for SMT soldering to PCB/BGA Packages) > I was thinking of a quick low cost method. > Solder a thin flexible co-axial cable with an SMT connector at one end to > connect to TDR/VNA. > I plan on testing a differential pair. All the surrounding mated pin/sockets >  to be soldered to a copper plate with a cutout at the signal pair . > My question is how thick should the copper plate be.  Also has anyone tried > this method.  Were the results accurate enough. > If it works well for TDR, I was thinking of testing S Parameters on the VNA. > I accept that there will be losses embedded from the short (2�) co-axial > cables/SMT for the VNA measurements. > At least I will get an idea about the connector performance. > Any thoughts/ feedback or better ideas will be appreciated. > Thanks, > Padma > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > To unsubscribe from si-list: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > For help: > si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > List technical documents are available at: > http://www.si-list.net > > List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > -- Steve Weir Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC 121 North River Drive Narragansett, RI 02882 California office (866) 675-4630 Business (707) 780-1951 Fax Main office (401) 284-1827 Business (401) 284-1840 Fax Oregon office (503) 430-1065 Business (503) 430-1285 Fax http://www.teraspeed.com This e-mail contains proprietary and confidential intellectual property of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Teraspeed(R) is the registered service mark of Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.net List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu