It depends on whether you are trying to qualify an open system or a captive one. I deal with FCAL instead of SATA but almost all component vendors will whisper in your ear that their receiver will work way under the FCAL eye opening spec. Some of them will work even if the eye is entirely closed. So when I have to qualify an incoming eye into a PBC in my centerplane from another on board PBC and it meets the vendors receiver spec, I will ignore the FCAL eye diagram. On the other hand, if I have to qualify the output to a HBA where my customer can plug any FCAL link into it, I better make sure the FCAL eye is met under any possible combination. -----Original Message----- From: Grasso, Charles [mailto:Charles.Grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 7:28 AM To: 'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [SI-LIST] SATA eye diagram - how much is too much Greetings! I have a question regarding the interpretation of the eye diagram data vis a vis SATA. How many violations of the eye does it take before a design is brought to a screeching halt? A follow up question: Can eye violations be graded in terms of severity based on the location of the violation (that is : at the outer bounds, or the internal eye trapezoid )? The basis of this question (naturally) is that I have SATA data that have exactly one 1 violation at the outer bound of the eye at 1 minute of data capture. Typical go/no go specification will determine that to be a fail. I am not so sure. Any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Best Regards Charles Grasso Senior Compliance Engineer Echostar Communications Corp. Tel: 303-706-5467 Fax: 303-799-6222 Cell: 303-204-2974 Email: charles.grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx; <mailto:charles.grasso@xxxxxxxxxxxx; > Email Alternate: chasgrasso@xxxxxxxx <mailto:chasgrasso@xxxxxxxx> ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu