Jack, As Steve pointed out a field solver is required for that type of analysis. From a MATH viewpoint, coupled line theory is not simple, and the equations are relatively inaccurate at today's geometries. Two texts that explain the math are Analysis of Multiconductor Transmision Lines, Clayton Paul Networks and Devices Using Planar Transmissions Lines, Franco Di Paola Ken -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jack Olson Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:30 AM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Routing Parallel vs. Paralell I got a MATH question I don't know how to solve... I want to know the difference between running traces parallel on the same layer (side by side) compared to running them on different layers right on top of each other (broadside). I know won't be a simple answer, so I will provide a simple example: Say I am using 6mil traces with 6mil clearances on layers that are 6mil apart using half ounce copper (which is nearly .6mils) and both layers are internal. What distance can I route side by side and get the same coupling as if I had routed them broadside? So I want a simple thing to remember that says something like, "traces routed 1 inch in parallel will couple the same amount as traces routed .2 inches broadside (layer to layer) Does anyone know how to make my rule-of-thumb? and if I change to 1oz copper, will the rule double? onward thru the fog, Jack ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu ______________________________________________________________________ All email being sent to or from SRC Computers, Inc. will be scanned by a third party scanning service. ______________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl?Si-List_FAQ List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu